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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Of course you can. If her campaign is successful in persuading our elected representatives that a ban is appropriate then they will pass a law banning U16's from having an adult mobile smartphone.
The only phones they will be able to have will be a child smartphone or a basic phone and probably not at school.
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What about Tablets?
What about PC’s?
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12-02-2024, 14:02
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Of course you can. If her campaign is successful in persuading our elected representatives that a ban is appropriate then they will pass a law banning U16's from having an adult mobile smartphone.
The only phones they will be able to have will be a child smartphone or a basic phone and probably not at school.
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Her campaign will not be successful because it is totally unworkable for all the other reasons everyone else here has patiently explained to you. You need to stop obsessing over this and move on - you haven’t found a new folk hero, you’ve found a parent speaking out of grief.
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12-02-2024, 14:30
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#228
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by Chris
Her campaign will not be successful because it is totally unworkable for all the other reasons everyone else here has patiently explained to you. You need to stop obsessing over
this and move on - you haven’t found a new folk hero, you’ve found a parent speaking out of grief.
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I'm not obsessed about the issue, mainly because it won't affect me one way or the other.
I've just updated the thread with the latest news and tried to respond to various points that have been (politely) made.
If they decide to pass legislation the question as to what they would do with tablets & PC's is a good one.
As for enforceability, I doubt that would come into it. Lots of laws have been passed where they aren't particularly enforceable and don't come to light until something goes wrong.
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12-02-2024, 14:36
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Re: Online Safety Bill
If a law can’t be adequately enforced, it’s not fit for purpose, and therefore only electioneering.
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12-02-2024, 14:44
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The Invisible Woman
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by Hugh
If a law can’t be adequately enforced, it’s not fit for purpose, and therefore only electioneering.
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12-02-2024, 14:46
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by Hugh
If a law can’t be adequately enforced, it’s not fit for purpose, and therefore only electioneering.
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I'm not sure that the Tories would do this for electioneering purposes. A lot of Tories don't like state involvement of citizens lives.
Lots of laws aren't fit for purpose and/or cannot easily be enforced, bur it doesn't stop Parliament from passing them.
MP's could choose to amend the Online Safety Act to ban U16's from having an adult smartphone and some parents could decide to break the law and still allow them to have one.
In practice it's unlikely that they would be caught, particularly if phones are banned in schools. Sure, some will be caught if they decide to utilise spot checks, but I imagine that most will be caught when something goes wrong eg murder, child sex abuse and it's found that the child had access to social media.
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12-02-2024, 14:46
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by Hugh
If a law can’t be adequately enforced, it’s not fit for purpose, and therefore only electioneering.
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A bit like the fox hunting law then.
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12-02-2024, 15:53
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Re: Online Safety Bill
Whats an "adult" smart phone ?
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12-02-2024, 16:44
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Re: Online Safety Bill
If we go with the let's ban people from doing things then maybe we should ban people from driving until they are 25 as the 17 to 24 age group is statistically over-represented in reported road accidents in comparison with older car drivers aged 25 and above.
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12-02-2024, 17:00
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth
If we go with the let's ban people from doing things then maybe we should ban people from driving until they are 25 as the 17 to 24 age group is statistically over-represented in reported road accidents in comparison with older car drivers aged 25 and above.
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Given that insurance for those in that age group can be many thousands now. They are effectively banned unless they (or Mummy/Daddy) are rich.
Let's also ban :- - soap operas
- Reality tv
- Any programmes about housing or cooking
- Piers Morgan
- Those motorised scooter things
- Dog/cat shit irresponsible owners
- German cars
Last edited by Mr K; 12-02-2024 at 17:03.
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12-02-2024, 17:12
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Given that insurance for those in that age group can be many thousands now. They are effectively banned unless they (or Mummy/Daddy) are rich.
Let's also ban :- - soap operas
- Reality tv
- Any programmes about housing or cooking
- Piers Morgan
- Those motorised scooter things
- Dog/cat shit irresponsible owners
- German cars
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we could cut the murder and violent crime rate by 90%, if we just jailed the male population from the age of 18-80.
Sensible policies for a sensible Britain.
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12-02-2024, 17:38
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by Paul
Whats an "adult" smart phone ?
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This refers to a bog standard smartphone ie not a child phone. Child phones generally refer to basic phones or smartphones that are specially designed or modified for use by children.
Things could be worse, a village in France has just banned everyone from scrolling on their phone in public and are offering 'dumb' phones to children under 15 
https://www.scottishlegal.com/articl...dian%20reports.
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12-02-2024, 18:05
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by Chris
Her campaign will not be successful because it is totally unworkable for all the other reasons everyone else here has patiently explained to you. You need to stop obsessing over this and move on - you haven’t found a new folk hero, you’ve found a parent speaking out of grief.
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We should call it "The world according to Richard daily broadcast" 
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12-02-2024, 18:16
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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Originally Posted by Paul
Whats an "adult" smart phone ?
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My guess any smartphone, would need to have dumb phones 
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12-02-2024, 18:18
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Re: Online Safety Bill
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We should call it "The world according to Richard daily broadcast" |
It's not the world according to me at all. You're not obliged to read this thread if you don't want to do so, in fact you are able to put me on ignore completely if you so wish.
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No, they can have child friendly smartphones if parents are happy with this.
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