The Chronicles of Rishi

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I’m not sure they can be given a pass for three years of Covid considering their behaviour during that period

Yeah, I know. Global pandemics that shut down most western economies, not really an excuse.

[Sephiroth]

Good logic. Of course, I won't vote Labour.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Fun fact that since 2010, the conservatives have only had a majority government for 6 yrs and 1 month of the 13yrs and 1 month.

3 yrs of that 6yrs blighted by COVID.

I don't think Covid lasted three years, more like 12 months.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What is Labour's plan for public services? If you don't know, you shouldn't be supporting them.

I'm not sure Labour knows its plans for public services so it's a bit unreasonable for Mr K to know them!

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I do understand that the Tories have governed very badly and need throwing out. But Labour isn't the answer.

If you understand that they need throwing out, then if you're logical you should vote against them at the next election.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Yeah, I know. Global pandemics that shut down most western economies, not really an excuse.

My thoughts and opinions aren’t just based on the economy. That’s merely one component

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It's all very well going on about the government's poor record.
But you lefties dodge any substance as to whether or not Labour can do any better.

You're right, best not give them a chance and lets carry on as we are then

Originally Posted by Pierre

And the NHS just keeps getting money thrown at it, and it’s still a basket case.

Really, I thought it was being cut...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Really, I thought it was being cut...

We must have got all those 40 new hospitals that BoJo promised us by now!

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

If you want to pay more tax and have higher interest rates on your mortgage.

Be careful what you wish for.

Yes, image a Government that presided over record-high tax and a huge spike in interest rates.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

We must have got all those 40 new hospitals that BoJo promised us by now!

More likely people have been to busy to delve into the claims of record NHS funding to notice it included the dodgy PPE contracts so whilst it looked they were investing in the health service they were actually using it to launder money from the public into the pockets of friends and donors, they think we're stupid and we go out of our way to prove them right at every opportunity

[jfman]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

More likely people have been to busy to delve into the claims of record NHS funding to notice it included the dodgy PPE contracts so whilst it looked they were investing in the health service they were actually using it to launder money from the public into the pockets of friends and donors, they think we're stupid and we go out of our way to prove them right at every opportunity

Plus the gravy train of “agency nurses” and PFI. There’s probably significantly less being spent per capita on actual healthcare as parasites get their cut.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What is Labour's plan for public services? If you don't know, you shouldn't be supporting them. I do understand that the Tories have governed very badly and need throwing out. But Labour isn't the answer.

So in a two party FPTP system, what is the answer?

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Again, that’s whataboutery…. The tories have mismanaged the public purse throughout their term. I have no problem with paying the levels of tax and ni and in some instances I get to pay employers ni too IF that money is used prudently. It’s almost certain that this current fiscal mismanagement would continue if the tories were returned. Labour have been out of the spotlight long enough for them to be given the opportunity. I don’t expect miracles, I just hope they will be less crap than the current lot in power

You are correct: you can see, as evidence, what the Tories have done in 13 years in power. The list of failures is so long I won't even attempt to start listing them. You have to be very naïve to want more of what they have done. The only other option is Labour as that is what our current system dictates.

To assume that Labour would be a worse choice than continuing with the current Government when you have no real evidence to back it up, is just denial of how much damage has occurred in the last 13 years.

Remember, the Tories only every had a two point plan for power:

1. Make money for their sponsors/donors/voter base
2. Stay in Power

[jfman]

It has to be said the state propaganda machine is in overdrive giving him good PR for this Post Office move.

Well, aside from the fact the move is probably a good one anyway, he needs all the good PR he can get.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

It has to be said the state propaganda machine is in overdrive giving him good PR for this Post Office move.

You have to remember that many parts of the media are simply propaganda outlets for the ruling party.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

It has to be said the state propaganda machine is in overdrive giving him good PR for this Post Office move.

I think he's on the money with this move though - the nation is angry with the cover-up and the suffering of the post masters/mistresses.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by denphone

You have to remember that many parts of the media are simply propaganda outlets for the ruling party.

Are you sure about that? The Mail, Express & Telegraph are always slagging the government off.

What about the Grauniad? A lefty mouthpiece?