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		|  13-11-2023, 10:11 | #751 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Plus 300,00 London Marchers. |  utter nonsense as you well know
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			I'm sure there were many pro-Hammas in the 300,000 they just didn't stick targets on themselves for the police to pick up but quietly pushed propaganda and agendas among those gathered. It was good to see the march go off so peacefully but a shame that it was organised on the date that it was. I should add that you can be pro-Palestinian without being anti-Israel, just as you can support Israel without hostility to the Palestinians.
 
 
 I'm also certain that the counter-protesters where for the main not anti-Palestinian (well not in the sense of anti-Palestinian in this particular conflict) and definitely not pro-Israel.
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Plus 300,00 London Marchers. |  Support in this country for a viable Palestinian state predates Hamas by decades, as I’m sure you’re well aware.
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					Originally Posted by Chris  Support in this country for a viable Palestinian state predates Hamas by decades, as I’m sure you’re well aware. |  But, but, but….
 
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			https://www.theguardian.com/politics...za-prison-camp
Strong words from our new foreign secretary. Will he revert to being a bought and paid for shill for Zionism like the rest of the Government?
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			I don't think Gaza is any better off today than 13 years ago in fairness.
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					Originally Posted by jfman  I don't think Gaza is any better off today than 13 years ago in fairness. |  It could have been, prime Mediterranean real estate, £ millions of aid going in every year.
 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  It could have been, prime Mediterranean real estate, £ millions of aid going in every year.
 Could have been the regions Dubai or Doha
 |  If Israel hadn't funnelled money in to prop up Hamas and weaken Abbas there would have been at least a chance.
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					Originally Posted by jfman   |  To be fair, the term Zionism is quite nuanced: in its generic form, it is clearly a laudable goal in that it forms half of the two state solution.
 
It is the sinister Ultra-Zionist form that is the threat to peace in the region, along with Hamas/Iran/etc. The desire and attempts to reclaim "Greater Israel" for the Jews is one of the drivers for the ongoing conflict esp. the illegal colonisation of the West Bank.
 
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https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...he-likud-party 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Who are the Zionists in the UK? |  Those who endorsed the politician who condemned citizens of nowhere?
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