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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  This government is shit. The next government will be shittier.
 
 
 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Given the next government has not been elected yet you must have the wisdom of Nostradamus. |  tbf, the last three have been shittier than their predecessors, so he’s assuming the Tories will win, and is probably basing it on that…   
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  tbf, the last three have been shittier than their predecessors, so he’s assuming the Tories will win, and is probably basing it on that…  |  Apparently Farage was skulking around the Tory Conference. He wants a safe seat so he can make a bid for the UKIP, sorry, Tory Party Leadership when they lose the next GE.
		 
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Apparently Farage was skulking around the Tory Conference. He wants a safe seat so he can make a bid for the UKIP, sorry, Tory Party Leadership when they lose the next GE. |  Well, at the Reform Party Conference today, he apparently stated he wouldn’t be doing that (under the current leadership)…
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Not really.  Present government is shit.  Labour is shit. |  Which means we reach one logical conclusion.
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Not really.  Present government is shit.  Labour is shit. |  Who is not shit?  
 
Nige? Who has never delivered anything, except division, lies, and a  resultant poorer nation.
 
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	I only accused the politicians of being shit.  Not Britain, which will, through the efforts of business, deliver.  The speed of delivery can be affected by the political shit, but business will win in the end.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Not Britain, which will, through the efforts of business, deliver.  The speed of delivery can be affected by the political shit, but business will win in the end. |  I see Paul's mod instruction - which I'm not ignoring and I've removed your first sentence solely for that reason to move on to take up your second point. 
 
Business needs political leadership (either colour) to deliver on investment, on infrastructure, on developing skills within the workforce that the private sector simply won't do. Business can only lead a race to the bottom left to its own devices. 
 
The outsourcing of public services demonstrates that. 
 
The next Government needs to ignore the balancing the books language of austerity and drive medium and longer term growth with spending decisions now.
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Is it the opinion of the class that wealthy, and not so wealthy, individuals should actively look to voluntarily pay more tax, or should the state close all the loopholes to prevent them avoiding tax? |  Or evading like B. Ecclestone who has been found guilty of it yet again, £400 million quids worth and not a day in prison time served despite his previous, compare that with the homeless shoplifter who is in prison for 22 weeks for nicking £2500 worth of goods, roughly a week for every 100 quid stolen, good job they didn't treat Bernie the same or he'd be in jail for the next 4 million years
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  Or evading like B. Ecclestone who has been found guilty of it yet again, £400 million quids worth and not a day in prison time served despite his previous, compare that with the homeless shoplifter who is in prison for 22 weeks for nicking £2500 worth of goods, roughly a week for every 100 quid stolen, good job they didn't treat Bernie the same or he'd be in jail for the next 4 million years |  This is painfully true.......the shoplifter cannot afford a KC....it is a state crime,
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