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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Which specific EU legislation are we still encumbered by?
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That’s been answered more than once before. Try the GDPR, Acquired Rights Directive, Working Time Directive, Agency Workers Directive just for starters. Did you not appreciate how bureaucratic the EU is? You should try setting up and running a business. Nightmare!
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ness-taskforce
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09-08-2023, 20:56
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Fatherless EU laws protecting the employees’ rights and not letting multi-national corporations do what they want with our personal data…
I’ve never understood the whining about Working Time Directive - if employees want to work longer hours, they can just opt out; what the employer can’t do is make them work those hours without agreement.
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09-08-2023, 22:31
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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The fact that 7 years later you are still misrepresenting the truth
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Really? Me? Like what exactly?
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10-08-2023, 14:42
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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The fact that 7 years later you are still misrepresenting the truth probably pisses off more people than just me. People voted out for a whole set of reasons and many did not do any research at all before voting. Some just believed the lies they were told.
Like this splendid chap:
https://inews.co.uk/news/world/brexi...-house-2508493 |
They did, we had people on here who thought they were voting to leave the echr and as a protest and they're just two of the knuckle heads I remember and there were others even amongst our small sample pool
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That’s been answered more than once before. Try the GDPR, Acquired Rights Directive, Working Time Directive, Agency Workers Directive just for starters. Did you not appreciate how bureaucratic the EU is? You should try setting up and running a business. Nightmare!
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ness-taskforce |
People aren't so stupid that they don't realise a cut in regulations means a cut to their rights and protections and aren't in their best interests it's the same with tax cuts, they're not meant for the little people
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10-08-2023, 14:47
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
That’s been answered more than once before. Try the GDPR, Acquired Rights Directive, Working Time Directive, Agency Workers Directive just for starters. Did you not appreciate how bureaucratic the EU is? You should try setting up and running a business. Nightmare!
https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ness-taskforce |
Pray, tell, OB how much experience do you have setting up a business?
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10-08-2023, 17:45
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Pray, tell, OB how much experience do you have setting up a business?
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Did you read the link? Do you really not appreciate how much bureaucracy surrounds EU laws?
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People aren't so stupid that they don't realise a cut in regulations means a cut to their rights and protections and aren't in their best interests it's the same with tax cuts, they're not meant for the little people
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As mentioned more than once before, the rights of UK citizens can still be protected, but in a less bureaucratic way.
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Fatherless EU laws protecting the employees’ rights and not letting multi-national corporations do what they want with our personal data…
I’ve never understood the whining about Working Time Directive - if employees want to work longer hours, they can just opt out; what the employer can’t do is make them work those hours without agreement.
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Because if you read it, the Working Time Regulations goes beyond just the 48 hour week.
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10-08-2023, 18:07
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Re: Britain outside the EU
I have read it (many times in the past, having run large teams/departments) - can you give examples of what the actual problems are (besides your stock answer of "too bureaucratic")?
These all look eminently sensible to me…
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the maximum weekly working hours, and how someone can work more hours if they choose
rest during the working day, week and year
young workers' maximum working hours and rest breaks
night work
special arrangements when there's an emergency or if someone is not able to take their rest
holiday entitlement
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https://www.acas.org.uk/working-time-rules
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10-08-2023, 19:50
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Did you read the link? Do you really not appreciate how much bureaucracy surrounds EU laws?
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As mentioned more than once before, the rights of UK citizens can still be protected, but in a less bureaucratic way.
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Because if you read it, the Working Time Regulations goes beyond just the 48 hour week.
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Call me a mad old fool but I'm not interested in can where my conditions and rights are concerned, I'd like the new plan set out before the old one is surrendered, we've been here before with trusting to hope and we held all the cards then too
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11-08-2023, 00:18
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Hugh
I have read it (many times in the past, having run large teams/departments) - can you give examples of what the actual problems are (besides your stock answer of "too bureaucratic")?
These all look eminently sensible to me…
https://www.acas.org.uk/working-time-rules |
Jesus, how many times have we been through this before? You are playing games.
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Call me a mad old fool but I'm not interested in can where my conditions and rights are concerned, I'd like the new plan set out before the old one is surrendered, we've been here before with trusting to hope and we held all the cards then too
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And that is a fair point. The government needs to get on with it to prove the doubters wrong.
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11-08-2023, 00:26
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
I have read it (many times in the past, having run large teams/departments) - can you give examples of what the actual problems are (besides your stock answer of "too bureaucratic")?
These all look eminently sensible to me…
https://www.acas.org.uk/working-time-rules
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Jesus, how many times have we been through this before? You are playing games.
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And that is a fair point. The government needs to get on with it to prove the doubters wrong. |
That’s a "no", then…
Here’s a handy hint - if you’ve answered it before, why not just link to those posts?
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11-08-2023, 06:27
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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That’s a "no", then…
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Similar to my question about his experience running a business.
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11-08-2023, 08:30
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Hugh
That’s a "no", then…
Here’s a handy hint - if you’ve answered it before, why not just link to those posts?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman
Similar to my question about his experience running a business.
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I seem to remember OB once letting slip he worked for the council.
Wonder if he walked to work, put his sandwiches in a Sunblest bag and if the children called him Bogie?
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11-08-2023, 09:09
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Careful - He takes no lip off nobody…
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11-08-2023, 09:52
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Careful - He takes no lip off nobody…
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I get the reference.
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11-08-2023, 10:39
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I get the reference.
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