17-07-2023, 17:42
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Anyway, The Torygraph/Sun/Mail/Express is righty and we all know what that is about.
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Not only that, the degrees of righty in your list moves from left to right!
So that settles it all - except "extreme right".
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17-07-2023, 18:17
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Not only that, the degrees of righty in your list moves from left to right!
So that settles it all - except "extreme right".
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To anyone on the centre-right, or left of the centre-right, they are four cheeks of the same arse…
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17-07-2023, 18:44
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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To anyone on the centre-right, or left of the centre-right, they are four cheeks of the same arse…
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Well, you'd know all about that.
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17-07-2023, 19:57
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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That wasn’t what Andrew posted, (#5288) and I said ‘when operational’ in the one you quoted.
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Who l voted for is irrelevant as l am a moderate slightly to the left voter which does not make me a leftie as you and others label us as.[COLOR="Silver"]
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You told us you voted Corbyn, and I’m not the one who appeared to call you a ‘leftie’. My comment related to your apparent incredulity.
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What’s entertaining is that you throws around “lefties” as an insult. How much catastrophic right wing economic policy do you have to witness to realise it has failed? How high do energy prices have to go? How much human excrement has to flow into our waterways? How many train operators have to “fail” once they’ve trousered all the subsidies and distributed those to shareholders?
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Er, it was Seph that used that insult! I couldn’t possibly comment.
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17-07-2023, 20:07
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Re: Britain outside the EU
"Leftie" is not an insult. It's an accurate description of anyone who voted for Corbyn and prolly Ian.
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17-07-2023, 20:15
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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"Leftie" is not an insult. It's an accurate description of anyone who voted for Corbyn and prolly Ian.
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I agree, but they seem to feel insulted when labelled with that term. I’m not sure why, it’s as if they’ve just been rumbled, although it is normally plain to see.
Many of them are completely intolerant of alternative points of view, which are dismissed out of hand without any sensible discussion.
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17-07-2023, 21:03
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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I agree, but they seem to feel insulted when labelled with that term. I’m not sure why, it’s as if they’ve just been rumbled, although it is normally plain to see.
Many of them are completely intolerant of alternative points of view, which are dismissed out of hand without any sensible discussion.
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Man using term as insult surprised when people feel insulted.
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17-07-2023, 21:42
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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"Leftie" is not an insult. It's an accurate description of anyone who voted for Corbyn and prolly Ian.
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Never voted for Corbyn. I hate the man.
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I agree, but they seem to feel insulted when labelled with that term. I’m not sure why, it’s as if they’ve just been rumbled, although it is normally plain to see.
Many of them are completely intolerant of alternative points of view, which are dismissed out of hand without any sensible discussion.
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This needs framing for posterity. The one person who wouldn't know sensible discussion if it bit him on the behind. 
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17-07-2023, 21:47
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Left / right, pretty meaningless really nowadays.
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17-07-2023, 22:23
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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That wasn’t what Andrew posted, (#5288) and I said ‘when operational’ in the one you quoted.
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You told us you voted Corbyn, and I’m not the one who appeared to call you a ‘leftie’. My comment related to your apparent incredulity.
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Er, it was Seph that used that insult! I couldn’t possibly comment.
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Still not congruent with actuality…
You said
The article said
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official estimates suggesting it will add just £1.8bn a year to the economy after 10 years
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The Trade Deal will become operational/ratified next year*, but the £1.8bn per year is in 10 years…
(unless you are saying it will take ten years to ratify the treaty?)
* https://www.gov.uk/government/news/u...nomic-benefits
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The Government will now take the steps needed to bring the agreement into force, expected to be next year.
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20-07-2023, 12:00
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Never let it be said that there's no positive Brexit news. 
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Paris success in attracting London banks boosts balance of payments
PARIS (Reuters) - France's post-Brexit success in attracting banks from London to Paris has exceeded expectations and is increasingly showing up in the country's balance of payments, the central bank said on Thursday.
After Britain's 2016 decision to leave the EU, the French government lobbied international banks hard to shift European activities to Paris in the face of competition from other finance hubs on the continent such as Frankfurt, Amsterdam and Dublin.
Those efforts are paying off as a number of Wall Street banks like Bank of America or JPMorgan have bulked up in Paris, setting up regional trading hubs in the French capital.
"Paris' post-Brexit success has been spectacular, it's recently been picking up and exceeds our expectations," Bank of France Governor Francois Villeroy de Galhau told journalists as he presented an annual report on France's balance of payments.
The trend is even showing up in balance of payments data with financial firms relocated from London to Paris contributing 1.5 billion euros ($1.7 billion) to France's financial services surplus last year, the central bank said.
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...31afb2a0&ei=14
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20-07-2023, 12:25
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Who knows maybe a middle-profile former client of a UK bank with less than £4m as a balance might be joining them soon.
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21-07-2023, 13:19
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Who knows maybe a middle-profile former client of a UK bank with less than £4m as a balance might be joining them soon.
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Indeed, someone needs to keep an eye out for Andrew Neill and also to see how Brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe's Ineos car plant in W̶a̶l̶e̶s̶ sorry France is doing.
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21-07-2023, 13:47
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Some pertinent info for anyone popping over to Spain this hols…
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/...three-27351268
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Anyone entering Spain must provide proof of a return or onward ticket, sufficient funds for their stay, and evidence of accommodation arrangements. This could include hotel booking confirmations or proof of address if they are visiting their own property, such as a second home.
Alternatively, if staying with friends, family, or a third party, they must present an invitation from their host or proof of their host's address. The Spanish Ministry of Interior website reads: "Foreigners must, if required, specify the reason for their request to enter and stay in Spain.
"The officials responsible for entry control may require them to present documents that justify or establish the credibility of the reason for entry invoked. Foreigners who request entry, in order to justify the credibility of the reason invoked, may present any document or means of proof that, in their opinion, justifies the stated reasons for entry.
"For these purposes, the presentation, among others, of the following documents may be required : In all cases, return or tourist circuit ticket."
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21-07-2023, 13:56
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Details without all the annoying ads and including the amount-per-day for funds
https://www.which.co.uk/news/article...k-aaZSk8j2LdPj
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