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			Westminster tittle tattle, won’t resonate with the man on the street, must happen all the time, revolving door etc. etc etc. 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1   |  Starmer's (and Labour's) approach of always shouting "something must be done" without ever expanding on what they would do when in power is very tiresome.
 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Starmer's (and Labour's) approach of always shouting "something must be done" without ever expanding on what they would do when in power is very tiresome.
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As to how many Conservative MPs have the fight in them remains to be seen - many are standing down.
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		|  03-07-2023, 19:47 | #769 |  
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			Starmer might not have any ideas but he’s up against 14 years worth of bad ones.
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					Originally Posted by jfman  Starmer might not have any ideas but he’s up against 14 years worth of bad ones. |  Add to that the colossal shitshow the Conservatives have made of this country where nothing works anymore many voters l  would imagine would be pretty happy to vote for a sober boring politician rather then the clowns this country has  elected these past few years.
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Add to that the colossal shitshow the Conservatives have made of this country where nothing works anymore many voters l  would imagine would be pretty happy to vote for a sober boring politician rather then the clowns this country has  elected these past few years. |  What are the positive Conservative legacies since David Cameron took power? I appreciate that some of politics is luck but the Conservatives tenure has not just been during the two years of Covid.
 
Some that come to mind are ironically quite woke: introduction of same-sex marriage, a record number of ethically diverse MPs, a legally-binding target of Net Zero emissions by 2050, sales of petrol/diesel-only vehicles banned from 2030 and revoking Thatcher's bus deregulation by allowing regional transport authorities to manage bus routes like TfL does in London.
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  What are the positive Conservative legacies since David Cameron took power? I appreciate that some of politics is luck but the Conservatives tenure has not just been during the two years of Covid.
 Some that come to mind are ironically quite woke: introduction of same-sex marriage, a record number of ethically diverse MPs, a legally-binding target of Net Zero emissions by 2050, sales of petrol/diesel-only vehicles banned from 2030 and revoking Thatcher's bus deregulation by allowing regional transport authorities to manage bus routes like TfL does in London.
 |  Be fair Andrew they've just come up with a cracking new wheeze...  Cutting the number of visas for care workers.  Too many of these types coming over here and caring for our increasingly geriatric nation.   
 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  What are the positive Conservative legacies since David Cameron took power? I appreciate that some of politics is luck but the Conservatives tenure has not just been during the two years of Covid.
 Some that come to mind are ironically quite woke: introduction of same-sex marriage, a record number of ethically diverse MPs, a legally-binding target of Net Zero emissions by 2050, sales of petrol/diesel-only vehicles banned from 2030 and revoking Thatcher's bus deregulation by allowing regional transport authorities to manage bus routes like TfL does in London.
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		|  05-07-2023, 21:59 | #774 |  
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			Michael Gove's sh*t cake is on the making, I can smell it.
 We have been accused that we abnormally produced too much sh*t.
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		|  05-07-2023, 22:03 | #775 |  
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					Originally Posted by Ms NTL  Michael Gove's sh*t cake is on the making, I can smell it.
 We have been accused that we abnormally produced too much sh*t.
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			Rishi Sunak is  facing yet another by-election this morning after the  Parliament's standards watchdog has published the findings of an inquiry into groping allegations against former government whip Chris Pincher..https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-66115262
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			The trouble is that the Tories announce all sorts of new initiatives but seldom manage to put a useful deadline and on any they do they then conveniently forget about them before being forced to announce a new initiative.They never get to an end point.
		 
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 LAB: 51% (+3)
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