FOUR Tory MPs have thrown in the towel

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

"Honestly, I’m not so desperate I have to refer to something that happened 47 years ago…"

Yes, and it won’t happen this time because we have a more economically literate government.

You shot yourself in the foot with that comment, Hugh!

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, and it won’t happen this time because we have a more economically literate government.

You shot yourself in the foot with that comment, Hugh!

An more economically literate Government which has increased the National Debt from 74.6% of GDP in 2010 (£1.3 trillion) to 99.2% of GDP in 2023 (£2.5 trillion)?

Mate, you just shot yourself in the foot whilst biting your toenails…

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

An more economically literate Government which has increased the National Debt from 74.6% of GDP in 2010 (£1.3 trillion) to 99.2% of GDP in 2023 (£2.5 trillion)?

Mate, you just shot yourself in the foot whilst biting your toenails…

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Er, a lot of that was incurred helping the poor through Covid!! Did you oppose that?

I thought, once, that this was a proper discussion forum. It’s just morphed into a Leftist horde. I will leave you guys to scrap amongst yourselves, for my own sanity and to stop you enjoying your self satisfaction in agreeing with yourselves.

I will disrupt your fun no more. Enjoy your lives, people!

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Er, a lot of that was incurred helping the poor through Covid!! Did you oppose that?

I thought, once, that this was a proper discussion forum. It’s just morphed into a Leftist horde. I will leave you guys to scrap amongst yourselves, for my own sanity and to stop you enjoying your self satisfaction in agreeing with yourselves.

I will disrupt your fun no more. Enjoy your lives, people!

Yes Michelle Mone is really poor

it is a proper discussion forum, trouble is your so delusional you call people who have voted Conservative all their lives a leftist horde, whilst you're away perhaps you could put the cool aid down for a bit

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Er, a lot of that was incurred helping the poor through Covid!! Did you oppose that?

I thought, once, that this was a proper discussion forum. It’s just morphed into a Leftist horde. I will leave you guys to scrap amongst yourselves, for my own sanity and to stop you enjoying your self satisfaction in agreeing with yourselves.

I will disrupt your fun no more. Enjoy your lives, people!

It was 85.4% as a percentage of GDP in 2019 having been going in the wrong direction despite almost a decade of austerity.

I shall not miss your economic illiteracy.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Er, a lot of that was incurred helping the poor through Covid!! Did you oppose that?

I thought, once, that this was a proper discussion forum. It’s just morphed into a Leftist horde. I will leave you guys to scrap amongst yourselves, for my own sanity and to stop you enjoying your self satisfaction in agreeing with yourselves.

I will disrupt your fun no more. Enjoy your lives, people!

Cable Forum is not an echo chamber I'm afraid Old Boy. If you want to post soundbite opinions but can't back them them up with evidence then be prepared to come unstuck.

[ianch99]

I am not sure why OB came back. If you try and deny objective truth as a "debating style", you are not going to get many people agreeing with you.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I am not sure why OB came back. If you try and deny objective truth as a "debating style", you are not going to get many people agreeing with you.

I think you are being a bit harsh there Ian. Who knows maybe we are living in truly halcyon days having competent, responsible leadership and are just too blind to see it

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Er, a lot of that was incurred helping the poor through Covid!! Did you oppose that?

I thought, once, that this was a proper discussion forum. It’s just morphed into a Leftist horde. I will leave you guys to scrap amongst yourselves, for my own sanity and to stop you enjoying your self satisfaction in agreeing with yourselves.

I will disrupt your fun no more. Enjoy your lives, people!

I know you and facts have, at best, fleeting moments of of congruence, but I’ll try once again to introduce some into the orbit of the black hole that is your, for lack of a better phrase, understanding of U.K. economics history, in the faint hope some reality may break through the Blue Event Horizon of your CCHQ indoctrination…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1687176602

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I am not sure why OB came back. If you try and deny objective truth as a "debating style", you are not going to get many people agreeing with you.

Exactly. Old Boy needs to acknowledge the lies of Johnson, accept the outcome of British democracy from a Conservative government and then move onto putting the case across for a future Conservative Government. One of which might be that the Conservatives are not afraid to punish their own leaders if they break the law - turning a negative into a positive and here the contrast with Blair might be used beneficially.

Pretending that it's a woke plot by remoaners is not going to cut the ice. And pretending that because there was no enquiry over a former PM's lies to Parliament should mean that all future Prime Ministers can lie without consequence defies logic.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Exactly. Old Boy needs to acknowledge the lies of Johnson, accept the outcome of British democracy from a Conservative government and then move onto putting the case across for a future Conservative Government. One of which might be that the Conservatives are not afraid to punish their own leaders if they break the law - turning a negative into a positive and here the contrast with Blair might be used beneficially.

Pretending that it's a woke plot by remoaners is not going to cut the ice. And pretending that because there was no enquiry over a former PM's lies to Parliament should mean that all future Prime Ministers can lie without consequence defies logic.

I'd just like to see Tory MP's being asked to follow the same rules we do. I wonder what will happen to my own local MP, who is currently awaiting a trial because he told a protester they should go back to Bahrain. Likely nothing, even if he is convicted. The sad thing is, I live in an area that is so deeply Tory, he would probably still win any election in the area, even if he is convicted.

[1andrew1]

Everything I've read says that barring a miracle, the Liberal Democrats will take Somerton and Frome. I assume Uxbridge and South Ruislip will go Labour.

Not sure about the other two seats and of course has Dorries officially resigned yet?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Everything I've read says that barring a miracle, the Liberal Democrats will take Somerton and Frome. I assume Uxbridge and South Ruislip will go Labour.

Not sure about the other two seats and of course has Dorries officially resigned yet?

Don't know, but apparently she's been called a 'vacuous goon' by an SNP MP.
A commons bullying inquiry has found that a fair comment

BBC News - SNP MP cleared of bullying Nadine Dorries
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-65960992

[Mr K]

4 Tory MPs gone and 4% down in the polls, there's a nice symmetry there


https://twitter.com/BritainElects/st...750361088?s=20

Westminster voting intention:

LAB: 46% (+4)
CON: 27% (-4)
LDEM: 10% (-2)

via
@DeltapollUK

[jfman]

Glorious.