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		|  10-02-2023, 22:51 | #361 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Utter, total crap.  That link contains total tripe.
 I know this constituency and it's the Lib-Dems who would give JR a run for his money, not Labour.  No way Labour.
 
 
 
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		|  12-02-2023, 11:51 | #362 |  
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			Interesting if true 
	https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other...ef1a114d55b6a8Quote: 
	
		| Fury among the Tories after Conservative MPs claim they were offered a '£400,000 bribe' 
 The Tory Party is considering a complaint to Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle after MPs said they had been approached with a £400,000-plus ‘bribe’ to join Nigel Farage’s Reform UK party.
 
 Sources said a number of Conservative MPs ‘have reported to senior party staff that they have been offered significant financial incentives to defect’.
 
 They say the offers were based on an agreement that if they joined Reform UK – founded with support from Mr Farage in 2018 as the Brexit Party – they would be guaranteed to receive several years of their MP’s salary if they lost their seat after defecting.
 
 From this April, MPs’ pay will rise to £86,584, or well over £400,000 for a full Parliament. Reform UK, of which Mr Farage is Honorary President, dismissed the incentives claim last night and accused the Tories of peddling ‘desperate nonsense’.
 
 But senior Tory figures – who fear Reform will split the Right-wing vote in pivotal Red Wall seats of the North and Midlands – are taking legal advice over whether the Bribery Act might have been breached by an offer of money.
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		|  12-02-2023, 12:09 | #363 |  
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			Interesting find by Andrew. 
 Whereas in 2019 the Brexit Party gave way in the Red Wall for the Conservatives, I doubt that the Conservatives will be similarly smart in 2024.
 
 For the record, I remain Conservative and once the clear out has completed, I hope that the party will shift into something less Eton/Oxbridge and fewer nodding heads types, ready for power in 2029 or whenever.
 
 That said, Farage is a great man.  Sunak needs to learn from him and get the things done that Farage is on about.
 
 
 
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		|  12-02-2023, 14:45 | #364 |  
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		|  15-02-2023, 15:43 | #367 |  
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			Not a big surprise but Starmer has confirmed Corbyn will not be readmitted to run as a Labour MP at the next election: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64640069 
This itself was expected ever since he was kicked out but the more interesting part is Starmer is challenging Corbyn's remaining allies to quit if they don't like it. Momentum has drastically reduced since the Corbyn years but this would allow Starmer to kick them out alongside any remaining PLP members should they campaign for Corbyn.
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		|  07-03-2023, 21:54 | #368 |  
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			The rats are leaving the sinking ship… 
Graham Brady: Tory Chair of 1922 committee to stand down as MP 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64880471 
Graham Brady has been the MP for Altrincham & Sale West for over 26 years with a 6k+ majority, and is only 55 - unusual for someone in that position/age to stand down…
		
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		|  07-03-2023, 22:01 | #369 |  
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Graham Brady: Tory Chair of 1922 committee to stand down as MP 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64880471 
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		|  07-03-2023, 23:05 | #370 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Neither is the Conservative Party an actual ship… |  I’m pretty sure Seph wasn’t objecting to a literal use of ‘rat’.  More likely the insinuation that Brady is unprincipled, jumping before he’s pushed, only interested in saving his own skin, etc etc etc. Any or all of which might be true or might not.
 
I suspect Seph has actually challenged you to back up that assertion in some way.  What you’ve actually done is accuse him of wilfully misunderstanding you, and then responded by wilfully misunderstanding him.  Which seems a bit pointless really.
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  The rats are leaving the sinking ship… 
Graham Brady: Tory Chair of 1922 committee to stand down as MP 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64880471 
Graham Brady has been the MP for Altrincham & Sale West for over 26 years with a 6k+ majority, and is only 55 - unusual for someone in that position/age to stand down… |  Ah yes, the tory MP for Sale      bit like most of the others really tbf, did anyone ever find out what he did for £800 per hour or what the company he did it for actually does
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			Perhaps he is stepping down before he is voted out by his local electorate.  https://pollingreport.uk/seats/E14000532
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 I suspect Seph has actually challenged you to back up that assertion in some way.  What you’ve actually done is accuse him of wilfully misunderstanding you, and then responded by wilfully misunderstanding him.  Which seems a bit pointless really.
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