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			Go, Nads!https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...herts-64590795 
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 Former culture secretary Nadine Dorries has said she will not be standing as an MP at the next general election.
 
 Conservative Ms Dorries used her TalkTV show to announce her departure and hit out at "MPs who drank the Kool-Aid and got rid of Boris Johnson".
 
 She has been a critic of Rishi Sunak's government since he entered Number 10.
 
 Parliament's anti-corruption watchdog said the Mid Bedfordshire MP broke the ministerial code by not consulting it before she took the TV job.
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		|  10-02-2023, 00:30 | #347 |  
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	Truss trashed the economy which had hitherto been bimbling along like other European economies   Her few weeks in office broke any semblance of regard for the government and its history  Her incompetence outranked everything else - even Boris who was bad.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by daveeb  True you have been critical of the govt but you then went on to suggest that the main issue was Truss wrecking the economy.  Truss was just more of the same incompetence and self serving, the last 13 years have been a complete disaster and they deserve to be gone for a very long time. |  
 Standing back, in the 13 years, we couldn't even properly deliver HS2, which they are now cutting back on to the point of near uselessness.  They've totally misread the global threat from Russia/China and have allowed our armed forces and equipment to run down (Labour weren't any different).  They've done little or nothing to increase the number of training places for doctors.  They, and all previous governments, have neglected to put a proper energy policy in place.
 
 We are so badly governed - the UK is a true shit-house now.  And the answer certainly isn't a Labour government who will be no better because they have no idea either how to deliver.
 
 All of the above I've said in various posts.
 
 
 
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		|  10-02-2023, 07:43 | #348 |  
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			Labour retains West Lancashire.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-64570223 
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		|  10-02-2023, 08:53 | #349 |  
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		|  10-02-2023, 10:07 | #350 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  There you go again.  I have been and am being very critical of the government today and the net minus position we're in after 13 years.
 Please read my posts properly before you sound off.
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Just to be clear then: you do not plan to vote Conservative at the next GE then, given your manifold criticisms of your Party?
		 
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		|  10-02-2023, 12:08 | #351 |  
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Don't worry I read your posts esp. the one where you said you voted for Liz Truss for PM    
Just to be clear then: you do not plan to vote Conservative at the next GE then, given your manifold criticisms of your Party? |  
 As to my (regrettable) vote for Truss, it was between her and Sunak and she had an economic vision.  How was I to know she couldn't execute properly?  I suppose the clue might have been in her lack of presentational skills.
 
 Anyway, I regard the front bench now as mainly nodding dogs and it galls me that there is little that can replace them.
 
 As for your sort, voting Labour is no solution either.  They'll squeeze the middle class even more, won't know any better how to secure a proper energy policy.  However. the fickle public won't care as long as they can get the current lot out because life goes on to an extent despite government.
 
 
 
 
 
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		|  10-02-2023, 16:04 | #352 |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  As to my (regrettable) vote for Truss, it was between her and Sunak and she had an economic vision.  How was I to know she couldn't execute properly?  I suppose the clue might have been in her lack of presentational skills. |  What you saw was her economic vision, it was just idiotic. She was warned by Sunak on television about what would happen. We discussed what would happen here. https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=3898 
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		| She'll be fine in the Tory Leadership race. Saying you'll get massive tax cuts without any spending cuts is what they want to hear. It'll fall apart though when it comes to implementation and policy and since she'll be PM she actually has to act on it soon. |  It was stupid. She said stupid things to get elected, dismissed the warnings and scaremongering then crashed the economy by doing the exact thing people said would not be possible.
		 
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		|  10-02-2023, 17:48 | #353 |  
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			Properly planned and executed, lower taxes and proper investment is the way forward.
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  John Redwood is my MP.  I will be voting for him.
 As to my (regrettable) vote for Truss, it was between her and Sunak and she had an economic vision.  How was I to know she couldn't execute properly?  I suppose the clue might have been in her lack of presentational skills.
 
 Anyway, I regard the front bench now as mainly nodding dogs and it galls me that there is little that can replace them.
 
 As for your sort, voting Labour is no solution either.  They'll squeeze the middle class even more, won't know any better how to secure a proper energy policy.  However. the fickle public won't care as long as they can get the current lot out because life goes on to an extent despite government.
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   Not sure what "my sort" is but if you are going to vote again for one the ERG arch-Brexitists, after all the damage they have caused then this does say it all.
		 
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		|  10-02-2023, 18:06 | #355 |  
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			I vote for John Redwood as a person well suited to representing my interests in Parliament.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Properly planned and executed, lower taxes and proper investment is the way forward.
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  I vote for John Redwood as a person well suited to representing my interests in Parliament. |  I get it. The said, Mr Redwood, is certainly representing his interests, unfortunately, outside of Parliament:
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  I vote for John Redwood as a person well suited to representing my interests in Parliament. |  You and OB might be in a minority there. Be a nice change to have a Labour MP   https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/...seat=Wokingham |  
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		|  10-02-2023, 22:00 | #359 |  
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		|  10-02-2023, 22:35 | #360 |  
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