The Chronicles of Rishi

[denphone]

l cannot see Johnson making a comeback as also two thirds of the public don't want him to hold high office again.

Originally Posted by Damien

The Daily Mail seemed more of a Boris backer and then a Liz Truss backer and is less keen on Sunak. They defended Johnson long after most allies had given up, and dismissed the talk of parties whilst running 14 or 15 front pages in a row on Beergate. They backed Truss when Johnson did leave and laid in Sunak a lot for scaremongering on Truss' economic plans before defending her budget for longer than anyone else did.

I don't think it's Starmer they're easier with but instead waiting for Johnson to try and stage another come back.

Despite appearances to the contrary these people aren’t stupid. Boris isn’t coming back and I doubt anyone at the Daily Mail really thinks he is, even if they write OpEds implying it.

The tabloids liked Boris because he was a winner, he spoke their language and he made headlines that sold newspapers. But they’re not so entranced by him that they can’t see the polling that suggests bringing him back would help the Tories retain the red wall only at the expense of almost everywhere else.

I don’t think the Daily Mail will ever love Keir Starmer but they will find themselves well able to hold their noses and get on with him.

[Pierre]

It’s going to be a very grim 12 yrs.

2 more yrs of the Tory’s, with the press jumping on MPs that have incorrectly calculated the square footage of their new extension on their planning application or demanding the PM resign as he overrun his Pay and Display ticket at his local NCP.

Then potentially 10 yrs of PM “what’s a cervix” Starmer and Deputy PM “smash your face in” Rayner that have done nothing….nothing…..absolutely nothing…to deserve their lead in the poll except not be Tories ( which many may deem enough). They have offered no vision for the U.K. they win purely by default.

He may have ended up a warmonger, but at least Blair coalesced everyone around an idea. Starmer is just a boring ****.

Do I waste my vote on a fringe party? Or just not bother.

I think if Labour win, which they will, it’ll be a hollow victory against a backdrop of very low turnout. Not that they’ll care.

Originally Posted by Pierre

I think if Labour win, which they will, it’ll be a hollow victory against a backdrop of very low turnout.

Many people wont vote next time anyway, with this ridiculous demand for a "photo id".

Originally Posted by Pierre

Then potentially 10 yrs of PM “what’s a cervix” Starmer and Deputy PM “smash your face in” Rayner that have done nothing….nothing…..absolutely nothing…to deserve their lead in the poll except not be Tories ( which many may deem enough). They have offered no vision for the U.K. they win purely by default.

That's often how it goes through. The question won't be what have Labour done to deserve to be elected but what have the Tores done to be re-elected. Have they made the country better? If people feel not, that it's the last 12 years that have been grim, then they might give others a chance. They will be kicked out if they don't make it better too.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Paul

Many people wont vote next time anyway, with this ridiculous demand for a "photo id".

l am not sure but l don't think the "photo id" applies to postal votes.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Chris

I think the mainstream right-wing press in this country is beginning the slow and painful process of making peace with the idea of a Labour government next year. The Tories are spent, bereft of ideas and talent and lacking a coherent vision for the country. They need to go into opposition, probably for two terms, while they take a breather and think about what they’re supposed to be for.

That being the case, the press, especially tabloids which don’t like backing the wrong horse, have no incentive to apologise for the failings of those whose ideological alignment they generally share and every reason to convince themselves they can tolerate the alternative, which is certainly easier with a Labour Party led by Keir Starmer than one under Jeremy Corbyn.

I think the current Conservative administration has ceased to be useful to the right-wing press. They know the government's unpopular with their readers, so why risk losing readers and revenue by defending people like Zaharwi.

Originally Posted by denphone

l am not sure but l don't think the "photo id" applies to postal votes.

It doesnt, however you do have to register for them well in advance.
Getting most people to care enough to do that, and then do the postal vote, is another matter.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Starmer is just a boring ****.
.

Whats wrong with boring and competent? It's not an entertainment role.
I'll take that over 'Boris aren't I a loveable lying rogue Johnson', who has destroyed this country. Its only a bit of a laugh for him at the end of the day. The rest of his party are equally talentless, corrupt and in it for no one but themselves.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Whats wrong with boring and competent? It's not an entertainment role.
I'll take that over 'Boris aren't I a loveable lying rogue Johnson', who has destroyed this country. Its only a bit of a laugh for him at the end of the day. The rest of his party are equally talentless, corrupt and in it for no one but themselves.

Oh oh. You're going too far. I'm a Conservative Party member and you have no business ascribing those insult to me.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Oh oh. You're going too far. I'm a Conservative Party member and you have no business ascribing those insult to me.

Parliamentary party then

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Parliamentary party then

All of them or just the front bench and some ex-front bench?

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

All of them or just the front bench and some ex-front bench?

All of them as they all seem to vote for these extreme, anti-democratic laws they are getting through the commons.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

All of them as they all seem to vote for these extreme, anti-democratic laws they are getting through the commons.

What has your rant got to do with MrK's accusation?

Originally Posted by Mr K
Whats wrong with boring and competent? It's not an entertainment role.
I'll take that over 'Boris aren't I a loveable lying rogue Johnson', who has destroyed this country. Its only a bit of a laugh for him at the end of the day. The rest of his party are equally talentless, corrupt and in it for no one but themselves.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What has your rant got to do with MrK's accusation?

Everything...