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		|  17-11-2022, 14:29 | #1696 |  
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					Originally Posted by pip08456  Jeremy Hunt: from April energy price guarantee will be continued for 12 months but at a higher level of £3,000 a year for average household |  Outstanding - a 20% increase…
 
So, for us, that means a forecast rise to £3,700 annual energy bill (up from last year’s £1,400).
		 
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		|  17-11-2022, 15:12 | #1697 |  
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			I was expecting worse.
 At least by the time April comes along, the weather will be getting warmer.
 There is always the [small] hope that the actual costs will start to fall by the end of next year.
 
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  Outstanding - a 20% increase…
 So, for us, that means a forecast rise to £3,700 annual energy bill (up from last year’s £1,400).
 |  "Outstanding" as in owing?
 "Outstanding" as in sarcastic?
 
 
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		|  17-11-2022, 18:26 | #1699 |  
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			Option 3, Bob…
		 
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		|  17-11-2022, 18:48 | #1700 |  
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		|  18-11-2022, 10:11 | #1701 |  
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			Bulb bill for gas and electric for a small 2 bed bungalow 17th October to 16th November £170.57, much higher than last bill and we have cut down drastically on our energy usage. However we are £490.00 in credit so not too worried at the mo.
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		|  18-11-2022, 10:20 | #1702 |  
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					Originally Posted by Tinky  Bulb bill for gas and electric for a small 2 bed bungalow 17th October to 16th November £170.57, much higher than last bill and we have cut down drastically on our energy usage. However we are £490.00 in credit so not too worried at the mo. |  
Over the last 12 months or so I have cut over 100KWHs average per month from my leccy and refuse to use heating more than a couple of hours a week to dry clothes. I wrap up warm and last winter manged without and intend to do the same this winter. The increase I have seen since October therefore has not been a great deal. I have almost £400 credit but now I know it is not going up to the expected ofgem cap in April (5K iirc) I am going to pull a ton out of it and enjoy spending it
		 
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		|  18-11-2022, 10:52 | #1703 |  
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			The daytime temperatures have dropped one degree each day over the past 4 days. The kitchen and dining room have lingered at 19.5c, as have the bedrooms. But this morning it's 17c everywhere, but 14c in the hall and landing, and only 7c outside. 
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			Our neighbours have affected us. They've build extensions over the road that blocks early morning sun from hitting our house and keeping the hall where the thermostat sits a little warmer so heating stays on longer.It's our terribly uncivilised weather. It really shouldn't drop much below 20C but we get lots of cold and damp where if we really got cold we would build for it and be used to enjoying it.
 
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		|  18-11-2022, 12:03 | #1706 |  
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					Originally Posted by SnoopZ  Save for the future! Atleast for fixing your frozen pipes.   |  I live in a council house, Just close the tap call the council it will be an emergence and Roberts is your Dads Brother. 
 
The only real point of concern is where the garden tap enters the mains line. It is lagged with a towel but have a jacket coming free off Severn Trent. The house is insulated and the boiler has a frost mode. I think the stat also does not go as low a zero so if the house internal temp drops to 0 (which I doubt will happen as there is always electrical devices creating heat) the boiler will kick in anyway.
		 
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			I have turned the heating on, 3c out there, 13c in the hall and 15c everywhere else.
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					Originally Posted by Taf  I have turned the heating on, 3c out there, 13c in the hall and 15c everywhere else. |  I suspect now I am at home this weekend rather than at work I may pop it on during the day, it's already set at 20c to come on at 8am for 1.5hrs then again at 5pm until 10pm unless at work for which case I turn it down to 18c so it doesn't trip on.
 
Sitting here in jumper and thermal underwear trousers which is currently ok.
 
Still contemplating getting a wired Tado thermastat to give me a little more control so I don't forget to turn it down when leaving the house like yesterday but I don't want to pay a monthly fee!
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		|  19-11-2022, 15:05 | #1709 |  
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			Maybe my physics isn’t good enough, but when the heating comes on at 5pm, doesn’t it have to catch up to overcome the extent of cooling during the day.
 
 
 
 
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  Maybe my physics isn’t good enough, but when the heating comes on at 5pm, doesn’t it have to catch up to overcome the extent of cooling during the day.
 
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