The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM - Page 4

Mythica · 17-10-2022, 17:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre

Regardless of who did what, Floyd or the police.

The singular bottom line is that Floyd did not have to die that day. It is as black and white as that.

Should the policeman have been convicted or what he should been convicted of are secondary.

He also didn't have to be a criminal. Dabble in that world and it changes your life for the worse, eventually.

Pierre · 17-10-2022, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica

He also didn't have to be a criminal. Dabble in that world and it changes your life for the worse, eventually.

The fact he had a record is, again, totally secondary to what happened.

Ramrod · 17-10-2022, 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

No,

perhaps you could try to read this and maybe just maybe learn something

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ng-of-america/

I just did. It's interesting that the article says: "As doctors, we wish to highlight for the public that this framing of the circumstances surrounding Floyd’s death was, at best, a misinterpretation and, at worst, a deliberate obfuscation."
That's ironic as that is what the article actually does. It skirts around the issue of lethal levels of drugs in his system.
It states that his neck was knelt on when the bodycam footage shows that it wasn't.
It correctly states that "the autopsy of George Floyd “revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation” ", but then incorrectly says "taken from the criminal charge complaint against Chauvin"

I'm unimpressed by the article.
I'm even less impressed that you won't entertain watching the documentary. You might learn something....

Mythica · 17-10-2022, 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre

The fact he had a record is, again, totally secondary to what happened.

Well I've never been on the floor by Police and by magic, I don't have a criminal record. Whether you disagree or not, his choices in life is what started it all.

pip08456 · 17-10-2022, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh

Pretty sure the documentary could not by any stretch of the imagination could be called "objective", as neither Candace Owens or the Daily Wire are…

Can the other media be? She offers a different take backed up with other evidence (especially video). Which sheds a different view of it, The truth is perhaps somewhere in the middle?

How can you judge until you've seen it? She's definately anti BLM and that is what the doc is really about but on the Floyd case she approaches it differently.

I do recomend you watching it and then making up your own mind.

Pierre · 17-10-2022, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica

Well I've never been on the floor by Police and by magic, I don't have a criminal record. Whether you disagree or not, his choices in life is what started it all.

Not necessarily, the police I am sure stop and arrest many thousands of people each year that don’t have a previous record and are subsequently released without charge.

His life choices are totally incidental to what occurred.

Mythica · 17-10-2022, 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre

Not necessarily, the police I am sure stop and arrest many thousands of people each year that don’t have a previous record and are subsequently released without charge.

His life choices are totally incidental to what occurred.

And how many of those that don't have previous and were released without charge, end up on the floor with Police sat on you? Not saying it doesn't happen, but it happens a lot more when you have a criminal record.

His life choices are the exact reason such a thing occurred. If he were a law abiding citizen going through his day to day life, we wouldn't be here talking about it.

Pierre · 17-10-2022, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica

And how many of those that don't have previous and were released without charge, end up on the floor with Police sat on you? Not saying it doesn't happen, but it happens a lot more when you have a criminal record.

You’ve obviously not been out and about in many provincial town centres at chucking out time.

Quote:

His life choices are the exact reason such a thing occurred. If he were a law abiding citizen going through his day to day life, we wouldn't be here talking about it.

He was 100% totally in the “care” of the police when he died.

That is the only place to be shining a light.

jfman · 17-10-2022, 19:09

Spot on, Pierre.

mrmistoffelees · 17-10-2022, 19:10

Spot on indeed

Mythica · 17-10-2022, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre

You’ve obviously not been out and about in many provincial town centres at chucking out time.

He was 100% totally in the “care” of the police when he died.

That is the only place to be shining a light.

Oh you mean those causing criminal damage, assaulting people or been verbally abusive? I've been out many times and not once have I been spoken to or sat on by the Police. Point still stands.

While choosing a life of being a criminal. If he wasn't a criminal, we wouldn't be talking about this as it wouldn't have happened.

jfman · 17-10-2022, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mythica

Oh you mean those causing criminal damage, assaulting people or been verbally abusive? I've been out many times and not once have I been spoken to or sat on by the Police. Point still stands.

While choosing a life of being a criminal. If he wasn't a criminal, we wouldn't be talking about this as it wouldn't have happened.

Similarly if the murderer phoned in sick that day we wouldn’t be talking about it.

**Paul** · 17-10-2022, 19:29

You love that word, despite the fact that "Murder" requires the death to be deliberate or pre-planned. This was neither.

Mythica · 17-10-2022, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman

Similarly if the murderer phoned in sick that day we wouldn’t be talking about it.

Which came first, the murderer or the criminal?

mrmistoffelees · 17-10-2022, 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

You love that word, despite the fact that "Murder" requires the death to be deliberate or pre-planned. This was neither.

In the U.K. but this is US law where

Second-degree murder is generally either:
An unplanned, intentional killing (reacting in the heat of the moment when angry)
A death caused by a reckless disregard for human life

He was murdered , Derek Chauvin was convicted of 2nd degree murder and also 3rd degree murder and something else which I can’t remember immediately