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					Originally Posted by jfman  I can’t see the membership voting for him. |  My thinking is that he came second and, if it weren't for Truss, he would have won.
 
Maybe you're right though and another leadership election will produce someone else.
 
Members may still resent Sunak for triggering the fall of Johnson.
 
A lot wanted Johnson on the ballot paper.  Could we see Johnson back in charge again if he apologises/says he regrets his mistakes and has learned his lesson?  I really don't know.
		 
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			Just loving the casual racism by the Daily Mirror with this one.https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ellor-kwarteng 
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					Originally Posted by RichardCoulter  My thinking is that he came second and, if it weren't for Truss, he would have won.
 Maybe you're right though and another leadership election will produce someone else.
 
 Members may still resent Sunak for triggering the fall of Johnson.
 
 A lot wanted Johnson on the ballet paper.  Could we see Johnson back in charge again if he apologises/says he regrets his mistakes and has learned his lesson?  I really don't know.
 |  Well….yes. You could say that Starmer would have won the last election if Boris hadn’t got in the way!
		 
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Well….yes. You could say that Starmer would have won the last election if Boris hadn’t got in the way!
 |  That's an excellent comparison actually. Another bite of the cherry and Starmer could pulverise the Conservative party into the ground so hard he could hand the corpse over to Satan himself. 
 
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	It may not come to a membership vote if Truss goes.  The MPs will stitch it up so that in the last two, one will stand down.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by jfman  I can’t see the membership voting for him. |  
 
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  It may not come to a membership vote if Truss goes.  The MPs will stitch it up so that in the last two, one will stand down.
 
 |  Good point.  This would prevent any further disruption caused by another leadership contest and avoid further highlighting the fact than they need to that they keep changing their leader.
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					Originally Posted by Pierre   |  I doubt thats actually what they said, but either way, another misuse of the word Racism.
		 
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					Originally Posted by OLD BOY  Well….yes. You could say that Starmer would have won the last election if Boris hadn’t got in the way!
 |  Except for the small fact he wasn’t Leader of the Labour Party then…
 
Oh, I see - you’re following the CCHQ line* that Labour lost in 2019 because Starmer was going to become Leader in 2020.
 
*just like their line that the Pound and Gilts crashed because Labour might win the next General Election. 
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					Originally Posted by Paul  I doubt thats actually what they said, but either way, another misuse of the word Racism. |  Point taken, in the strict definition of Racism it does not apply.
 
My point was,  well I would hope you could understand what my point was, without being a pedant within the Hugh envelope.
		 
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The clown thinks it was a problem of communication, rather than the underlying economic incompetence. 
 
I’m also entertained at the notion of “value for the taxpayer” to justify the attack on public services and the welfare state. Maybe the taxpayer would get better value of the pound was worth more importing everything from energy to cars.
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The clown thinks it was a problem of communication, rather than the underlying economic incompetence. 
 
I’m also entertained at the notion of “value for the taxpayer” to justify the attack on public services and the welfare state. Maybe the taxpayer would get better value of the pound was worth more importing everything from energy to cars. |  Gove has certainly torn into Truss's plans this morning stating the mini budget was unconservative in its values..
		 
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					Originally Posted by denphone  Gove has certainly torn into Truss's plans this morning stating the mini budget was unconservative in its values.. |  He invented backstabbing
		 
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  He invented backstabbing |  l suspect on the disastrous mini budget his views represent the majority of Conservative MPs currently.
		 
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			Is it unusual for these things to come out into the open so quickly? 
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		| King Charles abandons plans to attend Cop27 ‘following Liz Truss’s advice’ 
 Prime minister reportedly raised objections to him going during personal audience at Buckingham Palace
 
 King Charles III has reportedly abandoned plans to attend and deliver a speech at the Cop27 climate change summit on the advice of Liz Truss.
 
 The monarch, a veteran campaigner on environmental issues, had been invited to the 27th UN climate change conference in Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt, next month.
 
 But the prime minister is understood to have raised objections during a personal audience at Buckingham Palace last month, according to the Sunday Times.
 
 Buckingham Palace has confirmed King Charles III will not attend the summit.
 
 A senior royal source told the newspaper: “It is no mystery that the King was invited to go there. He had to think very carefully about what steps to take for his first overseas tour, and he is not going to be attending Cop.”
 
 They said the decision was made on the government’s advice and was “entirely in the spirit of being ever-mindful as King that he acts on government advice”. However, it remains “under active discussion” about how King Charles will make his presence felt at Cop27, which runs from 6 to 18 November.
 
 Another source said the new monarch would be “personally disappointed” to miss the conference and was “all lined up to go”, with several engagements planned around his Sustainable Markets Initiative (SMI), which aims to persuade businesses to invest in environmentally friendly initiatives.
 
 “The Queen gave an entirely non-political address at Cop last year … it sounds like he is not being given the choice. That is an error of judgment on the part of the government,” the Sunday Times was told.
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