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			Labour MP Rupa Huq suspended from party for calling Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng 'superficially' black 
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-mp...rteng-12706333
Nice to see the racism problem is under control
 
The MP for Ealing Central and Acton, made the remarks about Britain's first black chancellor at a Labour conference fringe event on Monday entitled "What's Next for Labour's Agenda on Race?"
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-09-2022, 17:40
			
			
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				Labour MP Rupa Huq suspended from party for calling Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng 'superficially' black 
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-mp...rteng-12706333
Nice to see the racism problem is under control
 
The MP for Ealing Central and Acton, made the remarks about Britain's first black chancellor at a Labour conference fringe event on Monday entitled "What's Next for Labour's Agenda on Race?"  
			
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 shocking comments she should be ashamed of herself rightly suspended
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-09-2022, 17:44
			
			
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			Yup. She can't complain about the suspension.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-09-2022, 18:16
			
			
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			And they call the Conservatives the nasty party!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-09-2022, 18:42
			
			
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			Is anyone actually surprised?  The left is not nice and cuddly and it doesn’t believe in freedom to live as you choose.  It peddles a new orthodoxy which it is prepared to use law to force on people and it reveals the ugly truth every time someone from a minority group dares step out of the approved state of victimhood assigned to them. 
 
Witness for example the shrill denouncements of Germaine Greer and others who gave their lives for feminism, at the hands of radical trans activists for whom womens’ rights are anathema.  Or, in this case, the denouncement of a black man for the heinous crime of being successful and having his own ideas about how success might best be offered to everyone else. 
 
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			27-09-2022, 18:52
			
			
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			The right wing press will love the traction from this. Losing the economic argument leaves culture wars as the last straw to clutch at between now and a general election and Labour have left an open goal.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-09-2022, 19:31
			
			
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			Good to see people in this forum calling out racist behaviour - well done, papa.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-09-2022, 19:32
			
			
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			The key thing is that she came out and said this sort of things, while there are masses of others in the Labour party who think them, or discuss them amongst themselves.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-09-2022, 19:33
			
			
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			Ok .... but how is calling a black man "black", racist and vile   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			27-09-2022, 19:42
			
			
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				Ok .... but how is calling a black man "black", racist and vile    
			
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 She said he was 'superficially' black with the implication being that he somehow isn't really because his experience and background don't match.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-09-2022, 20:01
			
			
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				Ok .... but how is calling a black man "black", racist and vile    
			
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 The terms that tend to be used instead are "coconut" and "bounty bar", meaning they are "white" inside, and not fully "black".
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				She said he was 'superficially' black with the implication being that he somehow isn't really because his experience and background don't match. 
			
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 Did she really mean that? Or is it simply acknowledging that the broader lived experience of certain minorities isn’t uniform based on their outward appearance. So when people stereotype and visualise the “black community” they probably don’t visualise an investment banker. 
 
Fundamentally it’s an open goal for the opponents of Labour for them to have these pseudo-intellectual debates publicly because when you filter the content down to a soundbyte, a tweet, or a tabloid newspaper column it’s very easy to portray it as saying something it doesn’t. Of those who see through that, the vast majority will be wondering why Labour thought it was wasting their time over during the biggest economic crisis in decades. 
 
Being the moral arbiter or who does (and who doesn’t) count as having lived experience across racial or sex based lines is just toxic.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-09-2022, 20:03
			
			
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			Sound rather like another case of people trying hard to be offended.  
 
Bady chosen words ? Definitely, but "racist and vile" Come on, a bit OTT
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Sound rather like another case of people trying hard to be offended.  
 
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			27-09-2022, 20:30
			
			
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			Whatever way you look at it, she referred to his race and in a derogatory way.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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