26-09-2022, 15:43
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Re: The energy crisis
that is really quite good
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26-09-2022, 19:01
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Re: The energy crisis
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That report says deisel is more expensice at 21p a mile. I find that hard to believe.
Round here, deisel costs about 9% more than pertrol, but all my diesel cars have done at least 20% more MPG, so the cost per mile is less than petrol, not more.
I average 44.4 MPG in my current diesel car, which works out at 18.0p per mile at current prices (176.7p per litre).
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26-09-2022, 22:04
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Re: The energy crisis
Just checked my Shell Energy account - it recommends that I increase my monthly Direct Debit to £308.00, as my predicted monthly usage is £343.72 (for comparison, last year at this time of year, my Sept 24th - Oct 23rd bill was £106.88, and my DD was £103).
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26-09-2022, 22:50
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Re: The energy crisis
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Just checked my Shell Energy account - it recommends that I increase my monthly Direct Debit to £308.00, as my predicted monthly usage is £343.72 (for comparison, last year at this time of year, my Sept 24th - Oct 23rd bill was £106.88, and my DD was £103).
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Ouch that's alot, are you charging electric cars and have heating on 24/7 or something?
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26-09-2022, 23:19
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Re: The energy crisis
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Ouch that's alot, are you charging electric cars and have heating on 24/7 or something?
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Nope - actually using less than last year (4 bed detached house).
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27-09-2022, 08:20
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Re: The energy crisis
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Nope - actually using less than last year (4 bed detached house).
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Never mind Hugh, it's gone to a good home. My quarterly Shell dividend has just come through, very healthy 
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27-09-2022, 09:57
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Re: The energy crisis
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Nope - actually using less than last year (4 bed detached house).
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Still sounds way above average but i don't really know.
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27-09-2022, 10:31
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Re: The energy crisis
It is above average (about 25-30%), but the average is calculated on a 3 bed semi, and we have a 4 bed detached.
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27-09-2022, 16:01
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Re: The energy crisis
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It is above average (about 25-30%), but the average is calculated on a 3 bed semi, and we have a 4 bed detached.
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What average are you referring to ?
I have a 3 bed semi, and my usage is way more than the so called national average that the cap refers to.
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27-09-2022, 16:17
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Re: The energy crisis
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What average are you referring to ?
I have a 3 bed semi, and my usage is way more than the so called national average that the cap refers to.
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For the average to be that figure means there are some using more and some using less I am sure you know how averages are calculated Paul. You use more I use less so we cancel each other out hahaha
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27-09-2022, 19:38
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Re: The energy crisis
Thank you capt obvious, but that wasnt my question.
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27-09-2022, 20:02
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Re: The energy crisis
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Thank you capt obvious, but that wasnt my question.
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Sorry but I though the average he was talking about was obvious seeing as the cap is an average and this thread has been using it as the average so I assumed maybe incorrectly that was the average the obvious one
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27-09-2022, 20:51
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27-09-2022, 21:08
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Re: The energy crisis
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I though the average he was talking about was obvious seeing as the cap is an average and this thread has been using it as the average so I assumed maybe incorrectly that was the average the obvious one
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I find it hard to believe that the average UK household is actually a 3 bed semi.
The cap constantly quotes itself as being the UK "average" - but its really hard to find any definitive information on what they actually mean.
What size/occupancy/usage is this fabled "average".
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27-09-2022, 21:27
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Re: The energy crisis
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I find it hard to believe that the average UK household is actually a 3 bed semi.
The cap constantly quotes itself as being the UK "average" - but its really hard to find any definitive information on what they actually mean.
What size/occupancy/usage is this fabled "average".
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I suspect it’s plucked from (almost) thin air.
The Government (BEIS) publish average usage that’s higher than the OFGEM “typical” use figures.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...ice-statistics
I think then unhelpfully the media trying to simplify it for readers tries to attribute this value to one type of home and baseline smaller or larger ones against this.
However, many factors around build quality, insulation, glazing, system efficiency etc. mean even these well intentioned generalisations could be out significantly against a sizeable proportion of each dwelling type.
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