Russia has invaded Ukraine - Page 122

**Hugh** · 11-09-2022, 22:17

**Chris** · 11-09-2022, 23:23

Apparently this evening’s missile strikes on the Ukrainian power grid are being described on Russian TV as a “retaliatory measure”, though according to Russian TV nothing has happened this week so it’s unclear what they’re retaliating for.

pip08456 · 11-09-2022, 23:26

Excerpt from a Zelensky speech aimed at Russia.

Ukrainian forces also reportedly heading in the direction of Mariupol.

pip08456 · 12-09-2022, 01:43

Russians withdrawing from some settlements in Kheron Oblast according to General Staff Uk.

Is the end coming for Putin?

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"Complete collapse": Putin canceled a meeting with the generals after the largest defeat of the army since the beginning of the war

Vladimir Putin, who has changed command twice since the start of the war in Ukraine, no longer wants to see his generals.

The President postponed meetings in Sochi with the leadership of the Ministry of Defense after the army in the Kharkov region suffered the largest defeat since the beginning of the war.

Following Balakleya, Kupyansk and Izyum were left, where the occupation administration of the Kharkov region and the headquarters of the group advancing on the Donbass from the north were located. The Russian Defense Ministry on Saturday called what was happening "distractions" and a planned withdrawal of troops.

But that hardly suits President Vladimir Putin. He postponed meetings with the leadership of the defense department and representatives of the defense industry - these meetings are "shifting to the right" in the schedule of the head of state, his press secretary Dmitry Peskov said.

Moscow Times

GrimUpNorth · 12-09-2022, 09:53

It's good to see the tide beginning to turn, but I feel so sorry for the innocent civilians and the hoodwinked Russian conscripts caught in the middle of it.

Vlad needs to go and has done for quite some time. Ukraine couldn't or wouldn't be able to do it without our hardware, and we couldn't or wouldn't be able to do it without the Ukrainian manpower. The sooner Russia changes the better for the world.

**Mick** · 12-09-2022, 12:54

BREAKING: Ukraine 'retakes 500 sq km in south' as Russia suffers major setback in Kharkiv region following Ukraine “tricking” them. - Sky News.

**Chris** · 12-09-2022, 13:13

News of Ukrainian advances is coming in so fast it’s hard to keep up. Though the BBC has finally deigned to update its map (for the first time in about a fortnight, but better late than never).

pip08456 · 12-09-2022, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Chris

News of Ukrainian advances is coming in so fast it’s hard to keep up. Though the BBC has finally deigned to update its map (for the first time in about a fortnight, but better late than never).

pip08456 · 12-09-2022, 14:13

Debate on Russian TV has undergone radical change.

https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/s...70513909022720

pip08456 · 12-09-2022, 18:15

Where does Fox News get these idiots from?

Tucker Carlson's top Russia-Ukraine war expert Douglas MacGregor, on Friday night: "This entire war may be over" soon, "right now things are going very, very badly" for the Ukrainians and they're "desperate," "they're losing once again just south of Kharkiv."

1andrew1 · 12-09-2022, 18:49

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Where does Fox News get these idiots from?

Tucker Carlson's top Russia-Ukraine war expert Douglas MacGregor, on Friday night: "This entire war may be over" soon, "right now things are going very, very badly" for the Ukrainians and they're "desperate," "they're losing once again just south of Kharkiv."

It's disappointing Fox News is presenting him as a war expert and not more accurately as a spokesman for Putin's Russia, whose view of the invasion he supports regardless of the evidence on the ground.

Douglas MacGregor has previously been described as the Putin wing of the GOP by fellow Republican Liz Cheney. Trump's request to have him as ambassador to Germany was fortunately prevented by the Senate.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...isk/ar-AAUFurY

**Chris** · 12-09-2022, 18:53

Meanwhile for Tucker Carlson, apparently they are going to lose simply because Biden has backed them. Rape, pillage and murder is seemingly ok as long as it proves the Dems were wrong.

pip08456 · 12-09-2022, 22:15

More problems for Russia. Volunteer units are refusing to be deployed in Ukraine.

**Damien** · 12-09-2022, 22:18

This isn't the first time Carlson has been concern trolling about Russia. I think it is partly because of the Biden backing Ukraine but also because Putin has been viewed as an anti-establishment figure in Western politics by virtue of opposing the west. It's also why you find the same useful idiots on some parts of the left as well. There are people on the left and on the right who are united in so much as they want to tear it all down and if that involves Putin inflicting a defeat on the West they'll take it.

**Hugh** · 13-09-2022, 14:43

Interesting article in the NY times about the background and planning for the latest Ukrainian offensives.

https://t.co/w9ieVNZnQn (Shouldn’t be behind paywall)