Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[GrimUpNorth]

Who would have thought that when we need 40,000 nurses, 50,000 doctors, 6,000 police officers, 100,000 care workers etc that the best way to recruit them would be to cut the salary? Only the caring conservatives think that much of 'hard working people'. They really should be ashamed that one of the 'best' 2 candidates for the top job suggested it and that nobody saw there'd be a backlash. Wow, just wow.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The principle is sound. That’s why you don’t get London Weighting outside of London.

We all know that shopping is cheaper in some areas than others, so it makes sense that wages reflect that.

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In other words, she listened to the reaction and decided to heed what people were saying. That’s good, isn’t it?

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Well, exactly. It is far more expensive to live and work in London.

Why don't we build a big wall round the poorer areas while we're at it, you know to keep the riffraff in?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

In other words, she listened to the reaction and decided to heed what people were saying. That’s good, isn’t it?

How is it good to tell people what you think they want to hear when you know you can't deliver it and will let them down, again.

[OLD BOY]

Well obviously she believed she could deliver, otherwise she wouldn’t have suggested it, would she?

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Who would have thought that when we need 40,000 nurses, 50,000 doctors, 6,000 police officers, 100,000 care workers etc that the best way to recruit them would be to cut the salary? Only the caring conservatives think that much of 'hard working people'. They really should be ashamed that one of the 'best' 2 candidates for the top job suggested it and that nobody saw there'd be a backlash. Wow, just wow.

Nobody has cut salaries, and the NHS is a black hole which is not delivering.

Originally Posted by Damien

Liz Truss has backtracked on her plan to pay civil servants outside of London less: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62390016

Of course she has, what on earth made her think that telling people who live outside of London that you're going to pay them less was a good plan [especially atm].

Originally Posted by Damien

Tories outside of London clearly concerned how a paycut (or small pay rises) in the North would be perceived by voters.

Why does everyone quote "The North".
Newsflash, the country has a "Midlands" as well.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

Why don't we build a big wall round the poorer areas while we're at it, you know to keep the riffraff in?

Yes, it’s a bad look, isn’t it, and I am not surprised that Labour would object to it. However, instead of getting all political about it, tell me why it makes sense for people doing the same work in the same organisation getting paid exactly the same when those living in a different part of the country can buy more because of where they work and live. Surely, they should have the same spending power?

If you want total equality, that’s the road you would take. Unfortunately, the equality warriors are not wired to apply common sense.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well obviously she believed she could deliver, otherwise she wouldn’t have suggested it, would she?

What like when she encouraged people to illegally fight in Ukraine you mean

She's a car crash and the perfect figure head for that shower of a parliamentary party

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, it’s a bad look, isn’t it, and I am not surprised that Labour would object to it. However, instead of getting all political about it, tell me why it makes sense for people doing the same work in the same organisation getting paid exactly the same when those living in a different part of the country can buy more because of where they work and live. Surely, they should have the same spending power?

If you want total equality, that’s the road you would take. Unfortunately, the equality warriors are not wired to apply common sense.

So it's not levelling up anymore, it's levelling down. I take it from your comment you'd quite like the idea of building walls. However, instead of getting all political about it, tell me what level of universal disposable income should we aim for? How much are you willing to sacrifice so you're equal to the people in the most deprived areas of the country? Many of those people you think should be behind a wall are really struggling and many of them work for organisations which already pay the same poultry wage across the county. So tell me, in your socialist utopia where everyone is paid the right amount for their area, just how little is enough?

[joglynne]

Originally Posted by Paul

Of course she has, what on earth made her think that telling people who live outside of London that you're going to pay them less was a good plan [especially atm].


Why does everyone quote "The North".
Newsflash, the country has a "Midlands" as well.

The Midlands don't exist Paul. You should have realised by now that anywhere north of the Watford Gap is considered to be in the North of England.

Originally Posted by Paul

Of course she has, what on earth made her think that telling people who live outside of London that you're going to pay them less was a good plan [especially atm].

Because at some point she needs to come up with some plans about how she'll save money and this grabbed this idea.

Why does everyone quote "The North".
Newsflash, the country has a "Midlands" as well.

Everything North of the M25 is 'The North' to me.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, exactly. It is far more expensive to live and work in London.

Than where? There are some equally expensive places 'up norf', with poorer public transport and more expensive commuting options. Variations within regions can be massive, between run down city suburbs and posh rural areas.
The whole concept is nuts as the nutty woman has had to admit herself. Hardly 'levelling up' was it?

Maybe she should do thinking first. Top tip that. Must be the biggest and quickest u turn by somebody who hasn't even ot the job yet.....

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Paul

Why does everyone quote "The North".
Newsflash, the country has a "Midlands" as well.

When people quote “The North”, they’re colloquially referring to the M62 corridor.

Newcastle, Sunderland, Durham - the North East,

and of course yes the Midlands (East & West)

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Originally Posted by joglynne

The Midlands don't exist Paul. You should have realised by now that anywhere north of the Watford Gap is considered to be in the North of England.

To some……the world doesn’t exist beyond Herts. It is a barren wasteland.

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Than where? There are some equally expensive places 'up norf',

Yes, but we don’t have to pay £650,000 for a 1 bedroom basement flat.

Variations within regions can be massive, between run down city suburbs and posh rural areas.
The whole concept is nuts as the nutty woman has had to admit herself. Hardly 'levelling up' was it?.

Salary dependent on location is a consideration. I wouldn’t work in London if you put a gun to my head, I hate the place, but buying and renting suitable accommodation is prohibitive.

Also just because somewhere may be rural, it doesn’t make posh, many deprived areas could be considered “rural”.

Bottom line is that it comes down to the market, if you’re not paying enough you won’t attract the employees.

Originally Posted by Pierre

To some……the world doesn’t exist beyond Herts. It is a barren wasteland.

Even some parts of Herts.

Originally Posted by Damien

Even some parts of Herts.

Having lived in Hemel Hempstead for 5 years … very much this ^

[Dave42]

Truss leads Sunak by 69% to 31% in latest Tory members poll

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...y-members-poll

PM Truss it sure will be carnage awaits

On the plus side, things are looking up for the domestic cheese industry.