Updated: Boris resigns as party leader - Page 254

BenMcr · 25-07-2022, 20:51

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Originally Posted by Paul

I cannot see how BJ would be back, surely that would require the current winner to resign, followed by another leadership election he would win - that seems .... unlikely.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-tory-members/

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Boris Johnson tells friend: I don’t want to resign and will stay on if Tory members back me
Premier would ‘wipe away everything that stops me being PM in a second’ as he says unequivocally that he wishes to carry on

**Damien** · 25-07-2022, 22:14

Sunak is so much better at this. I don't understand what the Tory Members see in Truss.

peanut · 25-07-2022, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Damien

Sunak is so much better at this. I don't understand what the Tory Members see in Truss.

Maybe because of what they see in Sunak is the reason Truss is the favourite.

Mr K · 25-07-2022, 23:02

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Originally Posted by Damien

Sunak is so much better at this. I don't understand what the Tory Members see in Truss.

They see tax cuts for themselves, at a time of massive national debt, and the next generation having to pay for it. The most selfish generation ever.

Sunak is certainly the most realistic of the two.

1andrew1 · 26-07-2022, 00:18

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Originally Posted by Damien

Sunak is so much better at this. I don't understand what the Tory Members see in Truss.

Maybe there's other reasons apart from ability? Someone who's not so wealthy? A female leader in contrast to Johnson and Starmer?

Personally, I rate Sunak far higher than Truss.

OLD BOY · 26-07-2022, 08:41

Wealth shouldn't come into it. Sunak is a self made man and he has shown through his success that he can get results.

What should matter to people is getting the person with the clear ability to run the country successfully in good times and bad. Where they came from and how much wealth they have, by themselves, are pretty irrelevant, really.

papa smurf · 26-07-2022, 09:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Maybe there's other reasons apart from ability? Someone who's not so wealthy? A female leader in contrast to Johnson and Starmer?

Personally, I rate Sunak far higher than Truss.

He'd be more at home in the labour party so he could tax and tax till the pips squeak.

ianch99 · 26-07-2022, 09:35

I think Truss did far better last night than anyone expected. She must have prepped like mad for this. She pitched the things the (predominantly old, xenophobic & wealthy) membership want to hear. Yes, she will trash the place even more than now but I guess we do sometimes get the Leaders we deserve.

Sunak came across as snappy and petulant. Tried to peddle the aspirational, self-made man shtick but no one is buying that rubbish.

Truss it is then ..

**Hugh** · 26-07-2022, 11:55

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Wealth shouldn't come into it. Sunak is a self made man and he has shown through his success that he can get results.

What should matter to people is getting the person with the clear ability to run the country successfully in good times and bad. Where they came from and how much wealth they have, by themselves, are pretty irrelevant, really.

He paid his own way through Stroud Prep, boarding at Winchester College Private school, for his PPE at Oxford, and his MBA at Stanford, California? (and his £13,000 a month beachfront apartment whilst he was at Stanford).

Impressive…

btw, at the time he was a partner at a Hedge Fund, he was also a Director at his Father-in-law’s* investment firm Catamaran Ventures - I’m sure that had no bearing on the Hedge Fund offering him a position…

I think most people would find it easier to be "self-made" and "get results" if some else paid for them to go to Private School & Oxbridge, gave them a £100,000 interest-free loan to buy a flat in London, then married a billionaire’s daughter…

Just to be clear, I prefer Sunak over Truss (much like I’d prefer a broken arm to an amputation), but let’s not romanticise his past or diminish the advantages he has had to get where he is.

*the multi-billionaire Nagavara Murthy

papa smurf · 26-07-2022, 14:10

I started out with nothing and i've still got most of it left.

**Hugh** · 26-07-2022, 15:02

"As far as I’m aware" doing a lot of heavy lifting in that statement…

Two days previously, he had attended a high-level Nato summit that focused on Russia.

Pure coincidence, I am sure…

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I wonder if he was ambushed by coke, sorry, by cake?

Mr K · 26-07-2022, 18:01

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Originally Posted by Paul

I still have a maroon passport, as do many other people.
Stamped, yes, a reason and funds ? nope wasnt asked about either.

You might well be asked in the future.

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British tourists may need to show Spain’s border officials that they have €100 (£85) for every day they spend on holiday in the country, the Spanish Government says.

Post-Brexit regulations mean that Brits will be treated as citizens from ‘third countries’ – different to those from the EU, impacting freedoms while visiting Europe.

Spanish immigration staff may also ask Brits to prove they have a return ticket or proof of accommodation while in the country and passports will now need to be stamped.

On the Interior Ministry’s requirements for entry, tourists are told: ‘Currently, the minimum amount to be credited is €100 per person per day, with a minimum of €900 or its legal equivalent in foreign currency.’

That means that a group of five staying for a week would in theory need to prove they had access to €3,500 (£2,955) – or €7,000 (£5,910), for a fortnight’s holiday.

It comes amid growing concerns about the impact of Brexit on travel, with major tailbacks at Dover and other ports and Brits facing delays in immigration queues across Europe

https://metro.co.uk/2022/07/26/briti...pain-17070901/