Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Have any promised to spend on healthcare/dentists? Stuff 10p off a litre, what are they going to cut to fund that? Or are they going to borrow yet more and bankrupt the next generation, whilst destroying the climate?

None of it is remotely believable. Lies are the new and accepted norm, thanks to Boris. Get elected, then lie more to cover the lies.

It's all smoke and mirrors, as the price of petrol rises so does the VAT take. The 5p duty cut they made a big fuss about had already been eclipsed by the increased VAT from the price increases leading up to the cut. It's just the same as the NI cut they were talking about on the 6th July, they seem to forget they put it up in April. They must think the public (or more to the point Conservative party members) are as thick as you know what. I suppose anyone who sucks it up deserves what they get.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth

It's all smoke and mirrors, as the price of petrol rises so does the VAT take. The 5p duty cut they made a big fuss about had already been eclipsed by the increased VAT from the price increases leading up to the cut. It's just the same as the NI cut they were talking about on the 6th July, they seem to forget they put it up in April. They must think the public (or more to the point Conservative party members) are as thick as you know what. I suppose anyone who sucks it up deserves what they get.

Agreed. The public already got what they deserved when they voted for Boris ! His track history of dishonesty, laziness and incompetence was there.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Agreed. The public already got what they deserved when they voted for Boris ! His track history of dishonesty, laziness and incompetence was there.

Well we saw the error in our ways in Wakefield, and I wouldn't be surprised if many more do too, particularly next door in Morley & Outwood now their MP has shown how uncouth she truly is.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I would likely resign my membership. I'd think for a month to see what happens.

I am worried that you are regressing into a Labourite, Seph!

Sorry that you have lost the faith and the perceptions to what is important. Humans are not perfect. You have to concentrate on their policies, old chap. As for their financial tappings - oh, please! We are all the same when it comes to it!

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I am worried that you are regressing into a Labourite, Seph!

Sorry that you have lost the faith and the perceptions to what is important. Humans are not perfect. You have to concentrate on their policies, old chap. As for their financial tappings - oh, please! We are all the same when it comes to it!

God no, OB! The faith I've lost is in that bunch of muppets currently running the country badly. There are plenty of Conservatives in Parliament who could do an honest job. The current lot cannot deliver the policies.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Agreed. The public already got what they deserved when they voted for Boris ! His track history of dishonesty, laziness and incompetence was there.

He got us out of the EU. That’s good enough for me.

Now that’s look at how we make it work. What? You don’t care about the opportunities that this presents and the need to pursue them?

Of course you don’t! You just to make a case for an (unelectable) Labour government.

OK, you’ll have to find the hard way!

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

God no, OB! The faith I've lost is in that bunch of muppets currently running the country badly. There are plenty of Conservatives in Parliament who could do an honest job. The current lot cannot deliver the policies.

As my late dad used to say, in politics, the trick to being a successful leader is to surround yourself with people more incompetent than yourself. I think he would have felt this very strongly about this government. Like you Steph as a paid up member he would have been spitting feathers.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

He got us out of the EU. That’s good enough for me.

Now that’s look at how we make it work. What? You don’t care about the opportunities that this presents and the need to pursue them?

Of course you don’t! You just to make a case for an (unelectable) Labour government.

OK, you’ll have to find the hard way!

If the intellectual heavyweights of the ERG say it could take fifty years why should Mr K bother with such long term aspirations?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I am worried that you are regressing into a Labourite, Seph!

Sorry that you have lost the faith and the perceptions to what is important. Humans are not perfect. You have to concentrate on their policies, old chap. As for their financial tappings - oh, please! We are all the same when it comes to it!

You do have a tendency to tar others with your standards…

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

He got us out of the EU. That’s good enough for me.

He didn't even succeed in that. The brilliant NI oven ready deal he agreed, he now says is rubbish, and negotiations with the EU will go on forever.... Meanwhile we have the slowest growth in the G7, and a higher inflation rate than any EU country. The Tories ignore all this and concentrate on their own personal power grabs, and who can tell the biggest lies...

By any standards he's been the worst PM ever and has caused enormous and everlasting damage to the UK. Any prospective candidate that propped this muppet up should be discounted by default. ( so that excludes all of them).

[1andrew1]

I think it's a pretty well accepted that Johnson is the worst UK PM we've all lived under.

Private Eye has a nice summary picture of his legacy. I won't attach the photo as it may prove disturbing to some but here's a link: https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/stat...622529/photo/1

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think it's a pretty well accepted that Johnson is the worst UK PM we've all lived under.

Depends how you define worst. He did at least do some things of note. May on the other hand did nothing at all. So I would put his tenure above hers. A very low bar I know.

[jfman]

First round result

88 | Sunak
67 | Mordaunt
50 | Truss
40 | Badenoch
37 | Tugendhat
32 | Braverman
25 | Zahawi
18 | Hunt

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Depends how you define worst. He did at least do some things of note. May on the other hand did nothing at all. So I would put his tenure above hers. A very low bar I know.

She negotiated a much better deal with the EU than Bozzo did.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

First round result

88 | Sunak
67 | Mordaunt
50 | Truss
40 | Badenoch
37 | Tugendhat
32 | Braverman
25 | Zahawi
18 | Hunt

Expect The Daily Mail and the Daily Express to run a campaign trying to stop Rishi Sunak becoming leader in these coming weeks.