Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

It seems he’s also been secretly campaigning for leadership since at least December 2021, ready4rishi.com was registered last week, but readyforrishi.com which forwards to the first url, was registered in December 2021. He had a polished, professional campaign video ready to go as soon as Boris resigned. He’s super rich, a botched photo op when he didn’t know how to pay for an item at a petrol station, borrowing a car and filling it with petrol, a car that wasn’t even his.

I’m sorry but if Sunak gets in as leader, then I’ll be one of those demanding we have a General Election too.

I agree with the analysis of Sunak. So out of touch regards most people's lives, it is a joke. His commitment is to himself .. that's it, it is all you need to know here.

There is a good argument that since the Tories are only in power because of Johnson then a GE should be called. This is a quite unique situation I feel.

I am not holding my breath in the hope that we get someone better who isn’t working to protect the status quo.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Maggy

I am not holding my breath in the hope that we get someone better who isn’t working to protect the status quo.

Not sure I under this? The (traditional) Tory Party raison d’etre *is* to protect the status quo.

Originally Posted by Mick

It seems he’s also been secretly campaigning for leadership since at least December 2021, ready4rishi.com was registered last week, but readyforrishi.com which forwards to the first url, was registered in December 2021. He had a polished, professional campaign video ready to go as soon as Boris resigned. He’s super rich, a botched photo op when he didn’t know how to pay for an item at a petrol station, borrowing a car and filling it with petrol, a car that wasn’t even his.

I’m sorry but if Sunak gets in as leader, then I’ll be one of those demanding we have a General Election too.

I agree with the criticisms of Sunak but the URL thing is a bit of a nothing burger. I am sure most of the candidates had plans in place to run for whenever a leadership election is called. Politicians usually do.

Same with Labour. Whenever Starmer is in a bit of trouble (bad polling, beergate) you can bet Andy Burnham is about to give an interview on national politics to a national newspaper/outlet.

Originally Posted by Damien

I agree with the criticisms of Sunak but the URL thing is a bit of a nothing burger. I am sure most of the candidates had plans in place to run for whenever a leadership election is called. Politicians usually do.

Same with Labour. Whenever Starmer is in a bit of trouble (bad polling, beergate) you can bet Andy Burnham is about to give an interview on national politics to a national newspaper/outlet.

I like Andy Burnham, is mayor of my city. Manchester. If he was leader of Labour Party, I would instantly switch back to Labour. I just cannot in all good conscious, support a Labour Party, with Starmer and Rayner at the helm, they’re still old remnants of Jeremy Corbyn.

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BREAKING: Labour Party to table No Confidence motion to oust Boris Johnson and call a General Election.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I agree with the analysis of Sunak. So out of touch regards most people's lives, it is a joke. His commitment is to himself .. that's it, it is all you need to know here.

There is a good argument that since the Tories are only in power because of Johnson then a GE should be called. This is a quite unique situation I feel.

Apparently Boris Johnson and his supporters are out to get Sunak and stop him becoming leader.

Current table from Guido Fawkes showing current backers tally:

[Sephiroth]

As I have said, Sunak is the wrong person to lead the government.
He'll prolly be a reasonable Business Secretary or summat, but for all the reasons stated in this thread, not PM. I would cautiously trust the Members if he's in the run-off.

I can't see all the other contenders standing down at the final hurdle as they may well have made the same calculation as I.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

Come off if Andrew, we’re in a cost of living crisis, but here, we had a chancellor far more interested in his personal ambitions than helping the nation out & those in need.

I totally agree with you, Mick, on Sunak's handling of the cost of living crisis. He made it even worse with increases in NI whilst reaping the benefits of more VAT on high petrol prices. Not a man worried by the £2 litre.

But I don't criticise ministers for preparing in advance for Johnson stepping down as he was promoted way above his station. Politicians of all colours do need to plan for the future so I won't criticise them for this.

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Originally Posted by Mick

Will their endorsement prove beneficial or be negative?

[denphone]

Dominic Raab and Grant Shapps back Sunak.

Originally Posted by denphone

Dominic Raab and Grant Shapps back Sunak.

Yeah, Dominic Raab, backing Sunak, tells launch event the polling shows "he's the only one who can beat Labour"

Utterly laughable.

I’ll have what he’s smoking.

[Sephiroth]

This is all the "I'll give you a job" shenanagans.

When it comes down to the final two, I'm reasonably confident that the membership won't choose Sunak (unless Hunt is in the last two which he won't be).

Worst case would be Sunak v Truss. Truss comes across to me as a mini-Boris in the sense that like Boris thought he was like Churchill, she'll imagine that she's like thatcher.

Truss doesn't go down well at party conferences. So, Truss v Sunak would be a "None of the above" for my vote.

[Dave42]

Penny Mordaunt and Kemi Badenoch are current top two on conservative home poll

https://conservativehome.com/2022/07...eight-hundred/

but of course up to the tory MP's to vote for who gets on final ballot to tory members

Priti Patel rules herself out of race

https://news.sky.com/story/conservat...hnson-12649823

[Sephiroth]

Badenoch gave a good account of herself on her launch event. But I doubt that she'll make it to the final two,

I'd choose her over the other muppets (excluding Mordaunt), though. The current cabinet hopefuls need expunging.