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					Originally Posted by Mr K  Up 32% in the UK in the last week. We've got complacent. More worryingly hospital admissions are also spiralling. Over reaction to under reaction, we just can't get it right. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62009230 |  Some people seem to be salivating at the thought of another lockdown. Not going to happen.
		 
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		|  01-07-2022, 20:24 | #1967 |  
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		|  01-07-2022, 20:37 | #1968 |  
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			[QUOTE=Mr K;36126681]Up 32% in the UK in the last week. We've got complacent. More worryingly hospital admissions are also spiraling. Over reaction to under reaction, we just can't get it right. 
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		|  01-07-2022, 20:48 | #1969 |  
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					Originally Posted by Mad Max  What a load of shite! |  As ever, thanks for your insightful and invaluable contribution to the debate. 
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		|  01-07-2022, 20:51 | #1970 |  
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 No one mentioned anything about a lockdown OB, but it doesn't have to be all or nothing
 People just being a bit sensible would do,  but too much to ask these days I guess.
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		|  01-07-2022, 21:06 | #1972 |  
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		|  01-07-2022, 21:23 | #1973 |  
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			People who contract covid-19 whilst in hospital for something else also count in the figure.
 
 It's really nothing to worry about. Most of the people making noise about it are the indysage types (not surprising when indysage was created to create noise) who have always been in the camp for excessive restrictions we don't need.
 
 
 Most people have had three doses of vaccine and coupled with a milder variant this is not making most people particularly ill.
 
 
 OK so the CEV people is an issue but this is an issue with any infectious virus spreading such as cold or flu. What did they do then?
 
 
 We also only have an extrapolation survey to decide how many people have it.
 There are 60 million people in the UK. If the ONS test 60,000 a week and 100 test positive, then does that mean 100,000 people in the UK have covid? Possibly, but you don't know.
 
 
 The ONS data also still shows (on the "symptoms reported" section) most positive tests report no symptoms at all. Considering how LFT and PCR tests work (presence of a segment of the virus RNA in sample not any indication of whether they are infectious) even this stat is potentially misleading.
 
 
 
 The likes of Whitty, Van Tam, Harries, etc (though I know JVT is no longer seconded to DCMO) are not concerned - JVT was interviewed the other day and said as much. Considering how concerned they were when we first had omicron come over here, it is indicative the current situation is not concerning.
 
 
 We do not need any more restrictions nor should there be any more. We can't keep turning businesses on and off like lights and expecting there not to be other effects. Pretty much everything which is reported as not functioning properly now is due to the consequences of locking down.
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		|  01-07-2022, 21:35 | #1974 |  
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		|  02-07-2022, 09:48 | #1976 |  
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Most people just having a cold (wasn't that asymptomatic  in the first wave and incidental hospital admissions are red herrings. They have always existed in all waves. 
 
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		|  02-07-2022, 11:07 | #1978 |  
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			The "third wave". Some are in hospital for other reasons, but they are still taking up beds.
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		|  02-07-2022, 11:20 | #1979 |  
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			It is bloody annoying that the virus seems to mutate so quickly and previous infections seem to matter for little. Hopefully, this peaks and we see more evidence that each 'wave' is smaller than the last. 
 It may be no worse than the flu but we already have the flu so to have two respiratory illnesses for the NHS to handle each year is a bit crap.
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