Home News Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Britain outside the EU

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Current Affairs

Britain outside the EU
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 14-06-2022, 00:01   #4126
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,216
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
Who’d you steal that from?
I think that's been his unofficial title since the FPN.
1andrew1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 16-06-2022, 12:44   #4127
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,216
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Lack of EU workers is proving problematical. We've heard about farming. Now it's the turn of travel and broadband.

Quote:
Boris' 'Brexit rules' to blame for airport disruption - 'Not enough EU workers in the UK'

Speaking to Times Radio, he [Paul Charles, former Virgin Atlantic and Eurostar director] pinpointed the issue: "Well, one of the big failings, I’m afraid, is the government not letting enough European workers into the UK.

"Our analysis shows that nearly a third of jobs in the travel industry in this country are traditionally filled by European workers. And of course, since Brexit, those rules have changed, which have prevented European workers coming in, in the main, to work in the industry.

"So, that’s why it’s struggling. It can’t find enough workers from overseas as well as in the UK."

Mr Charles continued: "And I appreciate, absolutely, the industry is not always paying well enough. The wages are not high enough, the baggage handlers or security processes. And the industry has got to take a good, long, hard look at that.

"But fundamentally, government rules not only during the pandemic, but since Brexit, have disabled the sector. They really haven’t helped the sector at all to recover."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...workers-uk/amp

Quote:
BT executive says Brexit is slowing superfast broadband rollout

Openreach head hits out at ‘tortuous’ process of hiring skilled workers from the EU

Clive Selley, chief executive of BT’s Openreach, the division leading the rollout of fibre optic networks to homes, said countries such as Portugal and Spain have plenty of people with the necessary skills to accelerate the delivery of superfast broadband.

“They want the work, we want the skills and the Home Office have a process that is tortuous,” Selley said in an interview. “We are constraining the rate of fibre build in the UK through the process.”

“If it was easier getting people in, I would take a thousand tomorrow,” he said, referring to contractors rather than full-time staff. Portugal and Spain have the skilled labour required because the countries are close to finishing their rollout, he added.

The delivery of superfast broadband is central to the Conservative government’s pledge to bridge the digital divide and level up the economy. Its last manifesto outlined plans to deliver “full fibre and gigabit-capable broadband to every home and business across the UK by 2025”.
https://www.ft.com/content/6038500d-...e-d884a6fcc907
1andrew1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16-06-2022, 17:12   #4128
Pierre
The Dark Satanic Mills
 
Pierre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: floating in the ether
Posts: 12,020
Pierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny stars
Pierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny starsPierre has a pair of shiny stars
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Lack of EU workers is proving problematical. We've heard about farming. Now it's the turn of travel and broadband.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...workers-uk/amp


https://www.ft.com/content/6038500d-...e-d884a6fcc907
I work in the telecoms sector and I call bullshit from BT on this one. That’s pure deflection from BT on the failure to build rurally - because there’s no money in it.
__________________
The wheel's still turning but the hamsters dead.
Pierre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-06-2022, 13:07   #4129
OLD BOY
Rise above the players
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wokingham
Services: 2 V6 boxes with 360 software, Now, ITVX, Amazon, Netflix, Lionsgate+, Apple+, Disney+, Paramount +,
Posts: 14,581
OLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronze
OLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Lack of EU workers is proving problematical. We've heard about farming. Now it's the turn of travel and broadband.


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...workers-uk/amp


https://www.ft.com/content/6038500d-...e-d884a6fcc907
Don’t worry, Andrew. When the new trade agreement with India is signed, we’ll get our overseas labour from there.
__________________
Forumbox.co.uk
OLD BOY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-06-2022, 13:52   #4130
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,216
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
Don’t worry, Andrew. When the new trade agreement with India is signed, we’ll get our overseas labour from there.
Do you really think that we'll be signing a trade deal with Putin's chums in the near future? You must clearly be joking!

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/92303530.cms
https://theprint.in/opinion/buying-r...-hands/998913/
1andrew1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-06-2022, 13:58   #4131
OLD BOY
Rise above the players
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wokingham
Services: 2 V6 boxes with 360 software, Now, ITVX, Amazon, Netflix, Lionsgate+, Apple+, Disney+, Paramount +,
Posts: 14,581
OLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronze
OLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Do you really think that we'll be signing a trade deal with Putin's chums in the near future? You must clearly be joking!

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...w/92303530.cms
https://theprint.in/opinion/buying-r...-hands/998913/
If we expect all our trading partners to be squeaky clean, we won’t be able to trade with anyone.
__________________
Forumbox.co.uk
OLD BOY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-06-2022, 14:57   #4132
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,216
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
If we expect all our trading partners to be squeaky clean, we won’t be able to trade with anyone.
It appears you're suggesting that we sign a trade deal with a country dependent on Russia both for its defence infrastructure and energy. Not that there's any such trade deal waiting to be signed, of course!

How well do you think this would sit with our allies, particularly Zelensky who Johnson calls every time he's in political trouble.
1andrew1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-06-2022, 16:00   #4133
Dave42
cf.mega poster
 
Dave42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Jarrow Tyne & Wear
Services: V.I.P 120 tivo and v+
Posts: 5,791
Dave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronze
Dave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
If we expect all our trading partners to be squeaky clean, we won’t be able to trade with anyone.
of course UK dont care about them being squeaky clean just look with our arms deal with one of the most vile counties in the world in Saudi that is just one example

Last edited by Dave42; 19-06-2022 at 16:04.
Dave42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-06-2022, 16:14   #4134
Mick
Cable Forum Team
 
Mick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,118
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 View Post
of course UK dont care about them being squeaky clean just look with our arms deal with one of the most vile counties in the world in Saudi that is just one example
Nonsensical one sided rubbish from you as usual, given many EU member states still paying billions in to Russia, for its gas. You’re always conveniently forgetting the whole picture Dave42.
Mick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-06-2022, 16:23   #4135
Dave42
cf.mega poster
 
Dave42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Jarrow Tyne & Wear
Services: V.I.P 120 tivo and v+
Posts: 5,791
Dave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronze
Dave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronzeDave42 is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

it all bad for Eu to get gas from Russia but all good for tories to get Russian money and make a former KGB agent son a lord right
Dave42 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19-06-2022, 20:55   #4136
Mick
Cable Forum Team
 
Mick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,118
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 View Post
it all bad for Eu to get gas from Russia but all good for tories to get Russian money and make a former KGB agent son a lord right
Yeah because Labour have never done that right?

Wrong!

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...russian-riches

Your precious Labour just as bad.
Mick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-06-2022, 06:58   #4137
mrmistoffelees
067
 
mrmistoffelees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Middlesbrough
Age: 48
Services: Many
Posts: 4,597
mrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronze
mrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick View Post
Yeah because Labour have never done that right?

Wrong!

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...russian-riches

Your precious Labour just as bad.
Justifying immoral. unethical or potentially criminal behaviour with

‘Well, if they’ve done it, it’s ok for us to do it too.’

No the wonder that all of our political parties aren’t worth tuppence ha’penny

Seems to be a view spreading further into wider society as well
__________________
Nerves of steel, heart of gold, knob of butter......
mrmistoffelees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-06-2022, 08:25   #4138
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,216
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze1andrew1 is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees View Post
Justifying immoral. unethical or potentially criminal behaviour with

‘Well, if they’ve done it, it’s ok for us to do it too.’

No the wonder that all of our political parties aren’t worth tuppence ha’penny

Seems to be a view spreading further into wider society as well
I think it's also important to draw a distinction before and after key revelatory events like the invasion of Crimea and Donbas in 2014 and the Salisbury Novichock poisonings in 2018.

Trade with Russia and donations from Russian entities was increasingly cynical since 2018's poisonings which left few in doubt about Russia's way of working.
1andrew1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-06-2022, 10:06   #4139
Mick
Cable Forum Team
 
Mick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,118
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Mick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny starMick has a nice shiny star
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees View Post
Justifying immoral. unethical or potentially criminal behaviour with

‘Well, if they’ve done it, it’s ok for us to do it too.’

No the wonder that all of our political parties aren’t worth tuppence ha’penny

Seems to be a view spreading further into wider society as well
It’s not about that, it’s about certain folk like you, always portraying one side as bad, when the full picture is both sides are just as bad, but the real crux of this issue, you and certain others, can’t stomach that your precious Labour Party is just as corrupt.
Mick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-06-2022, 10:14   #4140
mrmistoffelees
067
 
mrmistoffelees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Middlesbrough
Age: 48
Services: Many
Posts: 4,597
mrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronze
mrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronzemrmistoffelees is cast in bronze
Re: Britain outside the EU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick View Post
It’s not about that, it’s about certain folk like you, always portraying one side as bad, when the full picture is both sides are just as bad, but the real crux of this issue, you and certain others, can’t stomach that your precious Labour Party is just as corrupt.
Certain people like me portraying one side as bad ? When the post you’ve just quoted references ALL parties ?

The same me who said that if found guilty Starmer & Rayner should be gone?

PS I’m not a staunch Labour voter, I’ve voted for them once in my entire life
__________________
Nerves of steel, heart of gold, knob of butter......
mrmistoffelees is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:52.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.