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[Legendkiller2k]

Originally Posted by epsilon

Cats? Are you sure you're not thinking of YouTube? https://www.bsgroup.eu/blog/what-are-fast-channels/

Looking at the companies involved, it seems to include many of the big streamers. As I understand it, many of the platforms are, at the moment, looking at what works and what doesn't. Content that doesn't work can be culled very quickly. In the meantime, sure, thrilling, modern, content such as the Beverly Hillbillies will be thrown in.


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Maybe they should switch to scheduled content...

No he is right tbf there used to be a channel called cat tv it was quite popular but shut down due to lack of funding, there is also dog tv too - https://www.dogtv.com/hello/

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by 1701-e

The biggest pain in the backside is the inability to record to watch. Star Trek Discovery was on such a channel at fixed times with advertising... No option to download or stream on demand. 1970 was asking for it's broadcast system back!

Ideally it should be possible to a hybrid channel i.e. a scheduled channel using On Demand content, rather than having a live channel that adds On Demand content afterwards

Although I guess that's what BBC and ITV and others are doing when you can 'watch ahead' with boxsets.

[1701-e]

In the case of Star Trek Discovery they didn't allow any on demand. Very frustrating. Hence other routes to view were used!

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k

No he is right tbf there used to be a channel called cat tv it was quite popular but shut down due to lack of funding, there is also dog tv too - https://www.dogtv.com/hello/

Dog TV seems to have very limited availability, probably more of a specialised service than a FAST channel, which would explain why it costs $6.99 a month. An altogether different type of channel.


From what I've heard, ITV will be launching additional FAST channels within ITVX. https://www.itv.com/presscentre/pres...ing-later-year

Themed channels (known as FAST Channels - Free Ad-supported TV Channels)
As well as being able to live stream ITV linear channels, ITVX will have an ever-changing host of exclusive themed channels, data driven to align with viewer preferences and popularity.
These constantly evolving pop-up channels will give a scheduled experience through a streaming service, with viewers able to choose where in the schedule they join.
With 20 channels at launch, including 'Hell's Kitchen US', 'True Crime', 'The Oxford Detectives', '90s Favourites' and 'The Chase' as examples, viewers can have the ‘lean-back’ experience of watching a curated, scheduled channel, as part of the ITVX offering. ITV intends to offer viewers a new themed channel, every week of the year on ITVX.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by epsilon

From what I've heard, ITV will be launching additional FAST channels within ITVX. https://www.itv.com/presscentre/pres...ing-later-year

So is that content that you'll be already getting via On Demand in ITV X or is it only content that will be on the FAST channel?

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

So is that content that you'll be already getting via On Demand in ITV X or is it only content that will be on the FAST channel?

Possibly, I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't know any more than it says in the press release.

It does seem to indicate that broadcasters are starting to get the message that searching for content isn't for everyone. Maybe curated linear channels will be the big thing in 2035.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by epsilon

Possibly, I guess we'll have to wait and see. I don't know any more than it says in the press release.

It does seem to indicate that broadcasters are starting to get the message that searching for content isn't for everyone. Maybe curated linear channels will be the big thing in 2035.

100% OD is only for OB.

Aren't all linear channels curated (programmed)?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

I don’t see why I should go out my way instead of you provide a distinction between the two as it’s pretty much critical to what you’ve been harping on about for seven years.

Well, that’s certainly been your interpretation of what I’ve been ‘harping on about for seven years’, but that’s because you have this hang up with the word ‘linear’ and you’ve taken the argument too far. I keep trying to explain to you what I am referring to, but you have not been listening.

I have tried to use different language to help you to figure it out like ‘conventional broadcast channels’, etc, but I seem to be spitting in the wind.

For the very last time, I am referring to existing terrestrials and other free and pay tv channels available through the EPG, and I am saying that when they go IPTV, as they will, they will lose their channel distinctions and we will be offered content from that organisation (like, BBC, ITV, Sky, etc) by content rather than by channel.

It’s all I am saying. By my reckoning, it will happen by 2035.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by 1701-e

The biggest pain in the backside is the inability to record to watch. Star Trek Discovery was on such a channel at fixed times with advertising... No option to download or stream on demand. 1970 was asking for it's broadcast system back!

Ok never found that a problem, however thinking about it have found some shows that l wanted to watch which were only on Netflix , except for one would never have bothered if l hadn't had it. As I would have never known about them

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, that’s certainly been your interpretation of what I’ve been ‘harping on about for seven years’, but that’s because you have this hang up with the word ‘linear’ and you’ve taken the argument too far. I keep trying to explain to you what I am referring to, but you have not been listening.

I have tried to use different language to help you to figure it out like ‘conventional broadcast channels’, etc, but I seem to be spitting in the wind.

For the very last time, I am referring to existing terrestrials and other free and pay tv channels available through the EPG, and I am saying that when they go IPTV, as they will, they will lose their channel distinctions and we will be offered content from that organisation (like, BBC, ITV, Sky, etc) by content rather than by channel.

It’s all I am saying. By my reckoning, it will happen by 2035.

It’s not an interpretation, OB, it’s observable reality. You are persistently and intentionally evasive when it comes down to using very specific definitions of very specific terms.

I’m at a loss as to where Pluto TV fits into this and how it’s distinguishable - if it even is at all - from linear (using the generally accepted definition) broadcasts over IP and why it will be viable for Pluto but not some of the biggest businesses in the market.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

100% OD is only for OB.

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20180813...ss-europe.html

You need to keep up, Andrew!

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

100% OD is only for OB.

Aren't all linear channels curated (programmed)?

Scheduled rather than curated for the main broadcasters. I was thinking of broadcasters following ITV's (and Channel 5's) lead and introducing additional, themed, linear channels. It does seem to be the way things are going.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20180813...ss-europe.html

You need to keep up, Andrew!

I'm not so sure that linking to an article from 2018 is the best way of telling someone to keep up. Maybe try linking to some stats from 2022.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20180813...ss-europe.html

You need to keep up, Andrew!

Notably absent: any stats at all on people who exclusively watch on demand programming.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by epsilon

Scheduled rather than curated for the main broadcasters. I was thinking of broadcasters following ITV's (and Channel 5's) lead and introducing additional, themed, linear channels. It does seem to be the way things are going.

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I'm not so sure that linking to an article from 2018 is the best way of telling someone to keep up. Maybe try linking to some stats from 2022.

Done deliberately. The number of VOD viewers is increasing all the time, as more recent articles have been confirming. This was not even disputed 4 years ago, that’s why I advised him to keep up.

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Originally Posted by jfman

Notably absent: any stats at all on people who exclusively watch on demand programming.

Er - it’s 2022, jfman. Nearly there, be patient. You do have this habit of confusing the present with the future…

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Done deliberately. The number of VOD viewers is increasing all the time, as more recent articles have been confirming. This was not even disputed 4 years ago, that’s why I advised him to keep up.

I think he is keeping up, he posted the link about Netflix job cuts after a subscriber exodus. That is the reality of 2022. Netflix is facing exactly the problems you have stated to be the downfall of traditional channels. Other broadcasters are pulling content from Netflix to support their own streaming services. Now Netflix has to rely even more on making its own content. The heady days of 2018 are gone and the original streamers face competition. Consumers are faced with having to pay subs to not one but many streamers to access the same content and at a time when the cost of living is increasing globally. Maybe now we could start to see the number of VOD viewers starting to fall faced with this new reality. Could VOD viewing have actually peaked? Obviously, you will say not, but it's probably better to watch what actually happens rather than listen to what you wish to happen.