Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I questioned from the start why Starmer was getting away with it when the circumstances were so similar to the PM's in relation to the fine.

Maybe someone should start looking carefully at the behaviour of Labour during the lockdown. They would wish they'd never started this in the first place.

Well if it turns out the rules were broken then they should do what Borris seems unable to do and resign.

[heero_yuy]

Partygate karma.

[Carth]

If all the agitation is about the lying rather than the act itself, maybe all MP's should - in the interests of honesty and fair play - have to take a lie detector test . . not one of the new electronic things, lets go back to basics



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So are we arguing the definition of when is a party not a party?

Originally Posted by Maggy

So are we arguing the definition of when is a party not a party?

The word "party" is a distraction - the actual legislation is about "gatherings" and whether they are necessary for "work purposes"…

What’s never mentioned is how the Government changed/loosened the COVID rules to allow campaigning in the 2021 Council Elections (and the By-Election) on the 29th March (before this picture was taken), and all the Johnson incidents were the previous year…

The rules were once again eased in the 12th April 2021

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Sir Keir Starmer was last night accused of hypocrisy for attending a birthday cake celebration in his office during the pandemic.

The Labour leader tucked into the shop-bought chocolate and lemon cakes while coronavirus guidance advised against holding close social gatherings indoors.

Sir Keir has repeatedly demanded Boris Johnson quit for attending an impromptu birthday gathering in the Cabinet Room in June 2020 – just three months before his own celebration.

The PM and Chancellor were hit with fines for breaking lockdown laws that banned indoor gatherings at that time. However, it has now emerged that Sir Keir was given a birthday card and two cakes in his office on his birthday in September 2020.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...enying-it.html

The rules were different in September. That was the summer and the lockdown ended in July. The law didn't state you couldn't be indoors which is why the Mail is trying to blur the lines by referring to the 'advice'.

[papa smurf]

Labour activists are busy this morning.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Sir Keir Starmer was last night accused of hypocrisy for attending a birthday cake celebration in his office during the pandemic.

The Labour leader tucked into the shop-bought chocolate and lemon cakes while coronavirus guidance advised against holding close social gatherings indoors.

Sir Keir has repeatedly demanded Boris Johnson quit for attending an impromptu birthday gathering in the Cabinet Room in June 2020 – just three months before his own celebration.

The PM and Chancellor were hit with fines for breaking lockdown laws that banned indoor gatherings at that time. However, it has now emerged that Sir Keir was given a birthday card and two cakes in his office on his birthday in September 2020.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...enying-it.html

We were in lockdown in June 2020, and weren’t in lockdown September 2020…

The front page of the Daily Mail on the day of Starmer’s birthday…

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Labour activists are busy this morning.

Mr Ad-Hominem-Attacks busy this morning…

Never been a Labour activist or voter - spent over a decade being a Tory activist though…

You never let facts/reality get in the way of a smear, do you?

Strangely enough, you said yesterday

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Some people are just nasty.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Labour activists are busy this morning.

I'm sure all party activists are busy canvassing for the forthcoming council elections.

Meanwhile, the likes of Hugh and Damien are busy combatting disinformation spread by the Daily Mail.

Here's a useful summary of the Durham situation:
https://www.indy100.com/news/keir-st...party-lockdown

[Carth]

I see the image I linked to has failed . . and that's before all the new 'protectionist' rules come in

I'm off back to sleep

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Sir Keir Starmer was last night accused of hypocrisy for attending a birthday cake celebration in his office during the pandemic.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...enying-it.html

Yeah, hypocrisy is awful, isn't it? (*)



(*Except when it's from me, obviously)

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Yeah, hypocrisy is awful, isn't it? (*)

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(*Except when it's from me, obviously)

But is it hypocrisy when for months, Labour have been going on about Partygate?

They’ve been caught in the act and they are no better.

But look at this from the official HIGNFY account:



Has the account been hacked?

The Rayner thing is a red-herring because it makes no difference to the legality of the event. It was an election campaign which was not only a year later but explicitly had rules written by the Government to allow in-person campaigns. So Starmer and Rayner being at the same event doesn't impact the legality of it.

Starmer having a cake in September is also just nonsense because it was legal then. The Mail is just trying to make it seem like 'Boris had cake, so did Stamer. So what's the difference?'. Well, the time of year it happens and the laws at that time.

The legal issue for Starmer is unchanged from what it was a few weeks ago. Did breaking off for dinner break the rules? The other thing is what else is there is come out? I am sure they're looking at everything Starmer did during lockdown so let's see what there is to come?

It is not a red herring. Actually the government advice was not to campaign in person, in doors. That isn’t a campaign event, they were drinking beer and socialising, that also was not allowed.