23-04-2022, 10:56
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Re: Network Congestion
There are so many variables that only VM will be able to finger what’s going on at any one time. To the best of my knowledge, the principal variables are:
1. The available meshing nodes in the VM network;
2. The reroute algorithms deployed to ensure everything runs, one way or another;
3. The peering arrangements, including alternatives during congestion;
4. For TBB, their peering arrangements;
5. What people, or attacks are doing at any given time.
In the past events shown in this thread, and seen from my perspective, there has been one occasion when the evening mountain appeared in my TBB graph; in none of the other cases did it show up. Whether or not that rules out TBB’s Internet access arrangements, I can’t tell because I don’t know them.
The balance of probability lies, imo, with what’s going on in the VM network and their recovery mechanisms. Spinning plates.
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23-04-2022, 13:18
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Re: Network Congestion
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24-04-2022, 00:53
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Re: Network Congestion
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24-04-2022, 01:19
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Re: Network Congestion
do you know what the funny thing is? I randomly checked it a couple of hours ago because I didn't have anything else to do and it was absolutely fine so it must have only just been starting:
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24-04-2022, 10:35
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Re: Network Congestion
But is your own circuit performance affectrd? This doesn’t get mentioned.
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24-04-2022, 10:44
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Re: Network Congestion
Probably not. I want to test it but i have only ever noticed the mountain after the fact. I'll check it tonight around 9 o'clock.
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24-04-2022, 11:45
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Re: Network Congestion
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24-04-2022, 12:34
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Re: Network Congestion
Again, do any of the people reporting the TBB spikes actually suffer poor performance at the time?
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24-04-2022, 12:37
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Re: Network Congestion
Probably not, but the graphs look nice 
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24-04-2022, 19:33
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Re: Network Congestion
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24-04-2022, 19:48
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Re: Network Congestion
It is back this evening
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24-04-2022, 21:14
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Re: Network Congestion
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat
It is back this evening
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we had the same bump
something may be starting now. I'll keep checking.
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24-04-2022, 21:23
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Re: Network Congestion
What does TBB actually measure, is it pings ? If so, what is it pinging, your modem ?
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24-04-2022, 21:25
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Re: Network Congestion
The reason that I'm asking whether or not the mountain is causing poor performance is that the dropped packets, if affecting your node, would have a definite adverse effect. However if the problem is on a path that you don't use, then there'll be no effect.
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What does TBB actually measure, is it pings ? If so, what is it pinging, your modem ?
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It's pinging your router.
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24-04-2022, 21:30
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Re: Network Congestion
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth
It's pinging your router.
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Well it's pinging whatever you have set to respond on the IP or Hostname you give it 
But yes, is this actually affecting anyone's interweb browsing or vidya gaming? Someone would need to run Smokeping or something similar to get a long term view of latency to multiple sites.
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