Updated: Boris resigns as party leader
15-04-2022, 19:48
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Breaking your own rules repeatedly either shows you're not not sharp enough to understand what you've just signed off on and told everyone else on national telly to do, or you feel that you're above the law. Neither of these makes you fit to govern in a Western democracy.
Doubtless more fines (which escalate in cost for repeat offenders) and pictures of unlawful indoor gatherings will come Johnson's way. The Police have only levied 50 fines for quick wins, there's more incidents to be investigated.
Under Johnson, the Party of law and order is fast becoming the Party and parties of law-breaking and disorder. It's reminiscent of the crumbling months of Major's regime. Perhaps this at least might provide Johnson with some comfort as Major has rehabilitated his reputation somewhat.
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If Old Boy only takes on board once piece of insight from this thread today, this sentence would serve him well.
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Except that maybe Boris knows he did NOT break the rules, and the Police have misinterpreted them. It is the Met we are talking about, you know. They have form.
I don’t see any mention of birthday cake in the regulations.
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15-04-2022, 19:55
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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This is where politics itself becomes murky and dishonourable.
Boris didn't bring Parliament into disrepute in the ordinary understanding of those English words. He brought himself into disrepute.
This isn't the time to disrupt government and make the UK the word's laughing stock.
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Except that maybe Boris knows he did NOT break the rules, and the Police have misinterpreted them. It is the Met we are talking about, you know. They have form.
I don’t see any mention of birthday cake in the regulations.
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So why has Boris paid the fine for breaking the rules?
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15-04-2022, 20:23
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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I don’t see any mention of birthday cake in the regulations.
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The 2020 rules were about banning indoor social gatherings which would spread Coronavirus, not on food items. Indoor social gatherings of two or more people were banned in England and people were only allowed to meet outside in groups of up to six. The two-metre social distancing rule was in place.
https://inews.co.uk/news/boris-johns...o=in-line_link
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Except that maybe Boris knows he did NOT break the rules, and the Police have misinterpreted them. It is the Met we are talking about, you know. They have form.
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Johnson has acknowledged the Police were correct.
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"When I said that I spoke in completely good faith because as I’ve said to you just now I… at the time that I was standing up for nine minutes in the Cabinet Room where I work every day, it didn’t occur to me that, as I say, that I was in breach of the rules."
“I now humbly accept that I was. But I think the best thing I can do now is, having settled the fine, is focus on the job in hand. That’s what I’m going to do.”
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https://www.thejournal.ie/boris-john...36592-Apr2022/
I believe ITV still maintains the event lasted an hour. Let's see what the Sue Gray report has to say on that.
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15-04-2022, 21:19
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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I agree. I come into contact with a lot of people in my line of activity, and even those who appear to be the last to disobey the law find (highly inappropriate) ways of justifying their transgressions.
Boris has nothing on them!
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Like Johnson?
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I don’t see any mention of birthday cake in the regulations.
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The 2020 rules were about banning indoor social gatherings which would spread Coronavirus, not on food items. Indoor social gatherings of two or more people were banned in England and people were only allowed to meet outside in groups of up to six. The two-metre social distancing rule was in place.
https://inews.co.uk/news/boris-johns...o=in-line_link
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Except that maybe Boris knows he did NOT break the rules, and the Police have misinterpreted them. It is the Met we are talking about, you know. They have form
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Johnson has acknowledged the Police were correct.
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When I said that I spoke in completely good faith because as I’ve said to you just now I… at the time that I was standing up for nine minutes in the Cabinet Room where I work every day, it didn’t occur to me that, as I say, that I was in breach of the rules."
“I now humbly accept that I was. But I think the best thing I can do now is, having settled the fine, is focus on the job in hand. That’s what I’m going to do.
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https://www.thejournal.ie/boris-john...36592-Apr2022/
I believe ITV still maintains the event lasted an hour. Let's see what the Sue Gray report has to say on that.
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OLD BOY knows better than Johnson - after all, Johnson has form…
If the Met have "misinterpreted the rules", why isn’t Johnson appealing*?
*I know, I know - because he is an inveterate liar, philanderer, dresses like 7 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag who combs his hair with a toffee apple, but I meant appeal against the FPN
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15-04-2022, 22:04
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
As someone said this evening while we were out for tea, even our nonce of an MP in Wakefield has shown more honour than Borris and realised the right thing to do is resign.
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16-04-2022, 15:23
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Just had the local MP at the front door, first time that's ever happened ! The Tories are worried....
Wasted a lot of his time before he realised his party had no chance of my vote. He didn't seem to know of or talk about anyone called Boris  The poor sod looked so depressed/knackered....
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16-04-2022, 15:32
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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As someone said this evening while we were out for tea, even our nonce of an MP in Wakefield has shown more honour than Borris and realised the right thing to do is resign.
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We know what you mean, but that comparison really is too far out, imo.
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18-04-2022, 00:55
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Boris hit by ‘indefensible’ fresh Partygate allegations
Johnson didn't just attend lockdown-busting celebrations in Downing Street, it has emerged...
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...ations-319673/
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18-04-2022, 10:14
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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That sounds like a challenge to the Forum. May I suggest it be defended by one or all of the following:
- Let's wait for the full Sue Gray report and give Johnson's party the benefit of the doubt in the May elections.
- Who didn't break the draconian and inconsistent rules?
- Starmer had a beer one year later too. I'm sure government rules did not alter throughout the pandemic.
- Where in the pandemic regulations did it mention not eating cake or drinking wine?
- You boring Boris-bashers really do need to move on. We need a strong and stable government to manage our response to the Ukraine war and cost of living crisis.
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18-04-2022, 10:20
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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That sounds like a challenge to the Forum. May I suggest it be defended by one or all of the following:
- Let's wait for the full Sue Gray report and give Johnson's party the benefit of the doubt in the May elections.
- Who didn't break the draconian and inconsistent rules?
- Starmer had a beer one year later too. I'm sure government rules did not alter throughout the pandemic.
- Where in the pandemic regulations did it mention not eating cake or drinking wine?
- You boring Boris-bashers really do need to move on. We need a strong and stable government to manage our response to the Ukraine war and cost of living crisis.

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You forgot
6. If the police decide Boris broke the law, the police are wrong.
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18-04-2022, 10:58
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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You forgot
6. If the police decide Boris broke the law, the police are wrong.
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18-04-2022, 11:46
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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We need a strong and stable government to manage our response to the Ukraine war and cost of living crisis.
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Well that one is actually true. The sooner the better.
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18-04-2022, 11:52
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Well that one is actually true. The sooner the better.
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Agreed.
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18-04-2022, 14:06
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Good luck finding one, and then you've got to persuade the public to vote them in anyway . . .
. . and after a few months half the country will be calling for their heads
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18-04-2022, 17:05
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Seems like you only get Covid fines if you are a Conservative.
https://www.gbnews.uk/news/nicola-st...onfirms/274641
Scotland First Minister Nicola Sturgeon will not be prosecuted after viral footage showed her breaching face mask law.
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