Updated: Boris resigns as party leader
12-04-2022, 17:31
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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That guy himself resigned for breaking the laws he helped inform though. It seems the advisor who does it had to resign but the person with the actual power doesn't.
The thing is it doesn't matter if you think the rules were bollocks or needed. The point is, as you say, that they made it a legal requirement to follow them but disobeyed it themselves. There is also the lying to Parliament thing.
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The lying to Parliament will doubtless prove the trickiest bit to swerve.
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12-04-2022, 17:37
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Damien
That guy himself resigned for breaking the laws he helped inform though. It seems the advisor who does it had to resign but the person with the actual power doesn't.
The thing is it doesn't matter if you think the rules were bollocks or needed. The point is, as you say, that they made it a legal requirement to follow them but disobeyed it themselves. There is also the lying to Parliament thing.
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Of course, rules don't apply to them like they do the little people and as much as some people might be bored of it I don't think it's going away
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12-04-2022, 17:39
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
The Secret Barrister on Twitter has bought a bit of clarity on what the fines mean;
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A Fixed Penalty Notice means that the police believe Johnson and Sunak to have broken the law.
It is not, of itself, a conclusive finding that they have.
If they are not guilty, they can refuse to pay, and contest the charges in the magistrates’ court.
Which might be fun.
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Mind you, you can be pretty damn sure that the Police have got ironclad evidence to take the political risk of sending a penalty notice the the PM and Chancellor. Getting this wrong would be severely career limiting for some poor copper.
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12-04-2022, 17:57
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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That's a charitable interpretation of what was going on in their minds.
I wouldn't care much about this but let's not forget that parents were literally stopped from being at the bedside of their dying child. That's why my blood boils over this.
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I’m trying to be even handed …
Yes, I totally agree it’s awful. While our own family inconveniences were limited to missing a couple of notable birthdays and anniversaries, I can well understand the anger of those who missed things that can’t be replaced or mitigated for, like the death of a loved one.
That doesn’t mean the rules weren’t necessary,though I think there should have been a bit more room for compassion and a lot less room for those who thought they knew better, like BoJo et al.
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12-04-2022, 18:16
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Damien
That guy himself resigned for breaking the laws he helped inform though. It seems the advisor who does it had to resign but the person with the actual power doesn't.
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fyi, whilst he did resign, it was apparently, symbolic. I read later that he was still at the sidelines and had his thoughts and advice listened to by the govt and sage.
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12-04-2022, 18:35
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
fyi, whilst he did resign, it was apparently, symbolic. I read later that he was still at the sidelines and had his thoughts and advice listened to by the govt and sage.
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Johnson & Sunak should make the same symbolic gesture, then…
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12-04-2022, 18:45
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Pierre
What will be in this story will be. I don’t see any need for him to resign or anything like that. Pay the fine and move on, I’m bored of it.
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Dislike him as I do, I agree with Pierre.
He'll likely slip up again, but right now we, the UK, need stability at the top.
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12-04-2022, 18:46
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by jonbxx
The Secret Barrister on Twitter has bought a bit of clarity on what the fines mean;
Mind you, you can be pretty damn sure that the Police have got ironclad evidence to take the political risk of sending a penalty notice the the PM and Chancellor. Getting this wrong would be severely career limiting for some poor copper.
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Could Johnson and Sunak just claim they decided to pay the fines so they could focus on the big issues facing the country whilst denying their guilt?
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12-04-2022, 18:47
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Could Johnson and Sunak just claim they decided to pay the fines so they could focus on the big issues facing the country whilst denying their guilt?
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Right now, I give a lesser fig for Sunak than Boris.
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12-04-2022, 18:49
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Dislike him as I do, I agree with Pierre.
He'll likely slip up again, but right now we, the UK, need stability at the top.
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We won't get stability at the top with Johnson in No. 10, for as you say, he'll slip up again. And will probably be emboldened if he gets away with just a fine or two.
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12-04-2022, 18:56
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
This made me laugh, seen on Twitter:
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They will need a super diversion for this one.
I'm expecting Johnson to announce that Carrie is having triplets whilst he recovers from COVID in a Kyiv bomb shelter.
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---------- Post added at 17:56 ---------- Previous post was at 17:53 ----------
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Dislike him as I do, I agree with Pierre.
He'll likely slip up again, but right now we, the UK, need stability at the top.
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But he is the definition of instability? You, being in a small minority of Tory supporters on this forum, have called him out as unfit for office.
He is a serial liar, with no moral compass. This country deserves better.
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12-04-2022, 19:14
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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This country deserves better.
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I don't think we do, we have allowed politics to sink into the gutter because "they're all at it" and this man is the result and the future will be even more extreme versions of this man because all but the extremists have given up
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12-04-2022, 19:36
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
I expect there to be absolutely no come back at all. They will just continue onwards until the next election. If the electorate make their feelings known at the ballot box in sufficient numbers then maybe we will have a change of government.
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12-04-2022, 19:38
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
Boris says sorry but REFUSES to resign over partygate and he vows to get on with job
The fine has been paid time to get on with the day job.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ess-conference
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12-04-2022, 20:03
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Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
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This made me laugh, seen on Twitter:
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But he is the definition of instability? You, being in a small minority of Tory supporters on this forum, have called him out as unfit for office.
He is a serial liar, with no moral compass. This country deserves better.
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As Starmer has said, Boris "has dishonoured his office".
But at a UK level. I don't want to see turmoil. Choosing a new leader takes a lot of time and will distract the Guvmin from important matters now at hand..
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