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Old 11-03-2022, 20:40   #1726
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Definite trend up in cases now

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Why does this matter? Everyone (except the naysayers) have been vaccinated and most get minor symptoms.

Those vaccinated who do fare worse than most will be given anti-virals, which will clear it up within three days.

Average death rates compared with previous years are lower.

So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.
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Old 11-03-2022, 20:47   #1727
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Why does this matter? Everyone (except the naysayers) have been vaccinated and most get minor symptoms.

Those vaccinated who do fare worse than most will be given anti-virals, which will clear it up within three days.

Average death rates compared with previous years are lower.

So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.
It matters that people don't unnecessarily die.

There seems to be evidence that the vaccinations don't last. The rush is on to give the over 75s another jab, which we're a bit slow at getting done.

It's not as simple as it all being over now.

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Old 11-03-2022, 21:14   #1728
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Why does this matter? Everyone (except the naysayers) have been vaccinated and most get minor symptoms.

Those vaccinated who do fare worse than most will be given anti-virals, which will clear it up within three days.

Average death rates compared with previous years are lower.

So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.
Thats an "interesting" viewpoint - information allows informed opinion, lack of information leads to uninformed action.

btw, who’s "we"?
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Guess who cares? ………………………….no one.
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Guess who cares? ………………………….no one.
I think the families of the 114 whose deaths were reported today might care a little.
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It matters that people don't unnecessarily die.

There seems to be evidence that the vaccinations don't last. The rush is on to give the over 75s another jab, which we're a bit slow at getting done.

It's not as simple as it all being over now.
That triple jabbed superiority didn't last long
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Old 11-03-2022, 23:06   #1732
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That triple jabbed superiority didn't last long
Funnily enough, no one on here displayed what you’re implying; it’s almost as if you’re making stuff up…
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Funnily enough, no one on here displayed what you’re implying; it’s almost as if you’re making stuff up…
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I think the families of the 114 whose deaths were reported today might care a little.
I’m sure they’re thrilled your championing them on here.
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Old 11-03-2022, 23:22   #1735
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It matters that people don't unnecessarily die.

There seems to be evidence that the vaccinations don't last. The rush is on to give the over 75s another jab, which we're a bit slow at getting done.

It's not as simple as it all being over now.
Same for flu. Why is there no hysteria about those deaths?

As I said, and you are careful to ignore, the average number of deaths currently is less this year.

So your point is…?
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Old 12-03-2022, 00:05   #1736
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I think the families of the 114 whose deaths were reported today might care a little.
Much like the families of everyone else who has died this year, from Flu, Cancer, RTAs or whatever reason.

There is no real need to give special treatment to coronavirus deaths over any others now.
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Much like the families of everyone else who has died this year, from Flu, Cancer, RTAs or whatever reason.

There is no real need to give special treatment to coronavirus deaths over any others now.
Absolutely spot on.
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Why does this matter? Everyone (except the naysayers) have been vaccinated and most get minor symptoms.

Those vaccinated who do fare worse than most will be given anti-virals, which will clear it up within three days.

Average death rates compared with previous years are lower.

So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.
It requires pretty basic level of understanding to realise that more cases equal more deaths. So how many dead people per day is a concern for you? 100, 200, 500, 1000? Of course, these dead people are not people you know.

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So those trend rates - too much information. We don’t need to know.
I need to know ..
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Same for flu. Why is there no hysteria about those deaths?

As I said, and you are careful to ignore, the average number of deaths currently is less this year.

So your point is…?
Important point - it’s less than the five year average. It still higher than the same time before COVID two years ago.

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 25 February 2022 (Week 8) was 11,150 - the figure for the 22nd February 2020 was 10,841

Also, the last two of the five years had higher than average death rates (due to COVID), this increases the current five year average -

Example
2015 - 100
2016 - 100
2017 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
5 year average - 100

2019 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
5 year average - 109

2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
2022 - 110
5 year average - 111

So, our current five year average is still higher than before COVID.
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Important point - it’s less than the five year average. It still higher than the same time before COVID two years ago.

The number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 25 February 2022 (Week 8) was 11,150 - the figure for the 22nd February 2020 was 10,841

Also, the last two of the five years had higher than average death rates (due to COVID), this increases the current five year average -

Example
2015 - 100
2016 - 100
2017 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
5 year average - 100

2019 - 100
2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
5 year average - 109

2018 - 100
2019 - 100
2020 - 120
2021 - 125
2022 - 110
5 year average - 111

So, our current five year average is still higher than before COVID.
Yes, but you are counting the numbers for the whole year, and that will be higher. The BBC report I heard on the news was that the death levels were now below average for the month.

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It requires pretty basic level of understanding to realise that more cases equal more deaths. So how many dead people per day is a concern for you? 100, 200, 500, 1000? Of course, these dead people are not people you know.


I need to know ..
The number of cases now equates to far fewer deaths now, thanks to the vaccination programme and the anti-virals that are now used to treat Covid.

You may want to know about the number of cases, but you don't need to know, just as you don't need a running commentary on other diseases that lead to deaths.

Covid is no longer the biggest killer, so it's time to end the paranoia.
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