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			Ukraine 96 hours later, is still Ukraine.  
Tom Newton Dunn: Anti tank missiles supplied by the UK and others are “making mincemeat of Russian armour”, Defence Secretary Ben Wallace tells @TimesRadio. 
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Russian bank values are falling like their tanks on the battlefield:
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			Apparently the EU will supply Russian-made fighter jets to Ukraine. Important milestone.
		 
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  Apparently the EU will supply Russian-made fighter jets to Ukraine. Important milestone. |  
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		| EU defence ministers will discuss how to get European weapons to the front line in Ukraine on Monday (28 February), after central banks wake up to new Russia economic sanctions. 
 Fighter planes are to be transferred to the Ukrainian air force alongside deliveries of smaller items, such as shoulder-fired anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles for the Ukrainian army, EU foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell said late Sunday.
 
 Thousands of anti-war protestors at Berlin's victory column on Sunday - the protest stretched another 2km to the Brandenburg Gate (Photo: Matt Tempest)
 "We are going to provide even fighter jets", Borrell said. "We are not talking about just ammunition. We are providing the most important arms to go to war," he said.
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	Putin may well decide that this is a provocation too far from the West and take military action against Poland.  And, of course, there need to be operable airfields with the right fuel supply available to Ukraine.  Very dangerous situation developing here.Quote: 
	
		| Poland was acting as a "logistics hub" for the arms deliveries to its neighbour after the Russian invasion closed Ukrainian skies to foreign planes. 
 And EU defence ministers, meeting Monday, will discuss "how this materiel is transported to the front line," Borrell said. "The western borders of Ukraine are still open as far as I know," he said.
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			According to the The Jerusalem post  Roman Abramovich is at the ongoing talks between Russia & Ukraine
		 
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					Originally Posted by tweetiepooh  I thought that what our foreign secretary said in effect that we wouldn't stop people going rather that supporting then if they did. There will be Ukrainian born/related UK citizens who want to "go home" and that's very different from some "hard nuts" who just want to go.
 
 Our church group has churches in Ukraine so we are praying for them and supporting as they want us to. One prayer that I have is that Ukrainians treat Russian prisoners and injured well. The more they can show that Russians do not need to fight to the death to avoid capture the better. Operation World shows Ukraine as 79% Christian, I pray that they behave like that.
 |  It transpires that BMS World Mission has spent the last several years training and equipping Baptist churches especially in eastern Ukraine to function as food banks/reception centres for displaced people.  I’m sure they’re not the only ones.
 
It has been noted in the media recently that for Ukraine, this war really began in 2014.
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					Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees  According to the The Jerusalem post  Roman Abramovich is at the ongoing talks between Russia & Ukraine |  
 
 
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		| Russian-Israeli billionaire Roman Abramovich, at the request of Ukraine, is in Belarus assisting in the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine as part of an effort to end the ongoing war, The Jerusalem Post has learned. Abramovich was asked by the Ukrainians to help in enabling the talks, and has traveled to Belarus to participate in the discussions. 
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			Just been reading that the An-225 Mriya is one of the casualties.
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					Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees  According to the The Jerusalem post  Roman Abramovich is at the ongoing talks between Russia & Ukraine |  Wtf is he doing there, jeez I can imagine,please, Ukrainians, I have a lucrative British football club, I have to get back to. 
Is this the best they can do, send in a billionaire?
 
What diplomatic experience does he have at all?
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  
 https://euobserver.com/world/154450
 
 
 
 
 
 Putin may well decide that this is a provocation too far from the West and take military action against Poland.  And, of course, there need to be operable airfields with the right fuel supply available to Ukraine.  Very dangerous situation developing here.
 
 
 |  Attacking a NATO member is something, I feel, that the Russian military may not sanction. Putin may be taken out at this stage.
 
(Very) speculative rumours that Valery Gerasimov, Russia's Chief of the General Staff (the highest ranking officer of Russia's armed forces) has been fired by Putin.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Mick  Wtf is he doing there, jeez I can imagine, please, Ukrainians, I have a lucrative British football club, I have to get back to.
 Is this the best they can do, send in a billionaire?
 
 What diplomatic experience does he have at all?
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Abramovich reportedly made his money by acquiring Russian state assets then selling them back to the state at a profit so I guess he's trusted by Putin. And trusted by Zelenskyy as he is of the same faith?
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					Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth  Just been reading that the An-225 Mriya is one of the casualties. |  
Sad if it has.
 
It is a truly massive plane, I heard it land at Glasgow Prestwick, then as I was taking off. Unfortunately I only had a 1mega pixel phone camera.
		 
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			BREAKING: Russian state media sites 'hacked' to display messages such as: 'Putin is forcing us to lie and is putting us in danger...It's not our war, let's stop him!' - Sky News.
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			RUSSIA's central bank has announced the Moscow Exchange will remain closed today amid fears share prices of major companies could be hit by recent sanctions. 
oops looks like going brokevich 
https://www.express.co.uk/finance/ci...ral-bank-putin
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					Originally Posted by Oliver Carroll - The Economist Correspondent
					
				  Really graphic images coming from near centre of Kharkiv right now — hit, it would seem, by a Russian rocket strike. Corpses. Women without legs. I’m not going to post it. But my god. All this during peace negotiations. |  I just don’t buy Russia’s sincerity here at all, but no one ever should.
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			Just been to Sainsbury's for petrol and half the pumps out of service. Speaking to the chap on the till and he said it's been absolute mayhem for the last 24 hours.
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