Russia has invaded Ukraine - Page 25

**Mick** · 26-02-2022, 11:47

**Hugh** · 26-02-2022, 11:53

I thought this Ukrainian put it very well…

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So, Putin, expected Afghanistan 2021. But he got Afghanistan 1979. Ukrainians aren't rolling over or welcoming back an old friend. They are digging in for war. And that's an ugly scenario indeed.

https://twitter.com/zoyashef/status/...529589250?s=21

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Of course we do have to realise a lot of what we are being told could well be propaganda. I am taking it all with a pinch of salt

In what way?

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unleash a smaller sized Nuke on Ukraine

He’s not that stupid.

More likely to be thermobaric missiles.

Sephiroth · 26-02-2022, 11:58

Or a small nuke on Chernobyl out of spite.

**Hugh** · 26-02-2022, 12:12

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Or a small nuke on Chernobyl out of spite.

Unlikely, since they’ve already captured it,

**Maggy** · 26-02-2022, 12:18

Be aware that there’s a lot of fake news and sources littering social media. I suggest you all choose media/sources that are proven to be truthful.

Carth · 26-02-2022, 12:43

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Be aware that there’s a lot of fake news and sources littering social media. I suggest you all choose media/sources that are proven to be truthful.

spot on Maggy, lots of fake stuff flying around

Jaymoss · 26-02-2022, 13:02

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In what way?

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Was that a serious question?

We are seeing a lot of reports from Ukrainians saying they have killed these shot down that could easily be exaggerated. The video also of the island that could easily be doctored.

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Be aware that there’s a lot of fake news and sources littering social media. I suggest you all choose media/sources that are proven to be truthful.

exactly.

The island video I was thinking if I had a capture of a ship passing an island it would be incredibly easy to add audio to it

**Mick** · 26-02-2022, 13:26

No that actually happened. Ukrainian President has acknowledged its authenticity, so it actually happened.

**Mick** · 26-02-2022, 13:28

UK Support and Russian sanctions list.

Jaymoss · 26-02-2022, 13:37

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No that actually happened. Ukrainian President has acknowledged its authenticity, so it actually happened.

I believe there is a good chance it did but just because the leader of a country that is being attacked says it did still could easily be propaganda.

It is not a stretch to think is could be faked to raise morale and increase support

On the offside of that it was a pointless loss of life.

**Mick** · 26-02-2022, 13:59

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On the offside of that it was a pointless loss of life.

Which is the fundamental tragedy of any war.

BREAKING: Poland's PM says that Hungary's Viktor Orban has agreed to ban Russia from SWIFT. - Spectator.

Just Italy and Germany still blocking the heaviest, ultimate sanction.

Sephiroth · 26-02-2022, 13:59

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UK Support and Russian sanctions list.

looks like an worthless election manifesto. Meanwhile the Russian ogre is murdering Ukranians at will. Has the ammo etc at the border reached the Ukranian army?

**Mick** · 26-02-2022, 14:05

“Russian restricting Twitter and Facebook, an admission it is dawning on them they are losing the information war.” - Catherine Philp - The Times, Diplomatic Correspondent.

Jaymoss · 26-02-2022, 14:06

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Which is the fundamental tragedy of any war.

BREAKING: Poland's PM says that Hungary's Viktor Orban has agreed to ban Russia from SWIFT. - Spectator.

Just Italy and Germany still blocking the heaviest, ultimate sanction.

can they not just do it without them? Bureaucracy everywhere

**Hugh** · 26-02-2022, 14:23

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Was that a serious question?

We are seeing a lot of reports from Ukrainians saying they have killed these shot down that could easily be exaggerated. The video also of the island that could easily be doctored.

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exactly.

The island video I was thinking if I had a capture of a ship passing an island it would be incredibly easy to add audio to it

Snake Island: Ukraine says soldiers killed after refusing to surrender

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60522454

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The official Russian account of the incident differs dramatically. Moscow said the 82 Ukrainian soldiers on the island surrendered it to them voluntarily and made no mention of carrying out strikes or inflicting casualties.

The Russians could easily prove the Ukrainians were alive by showing the "82 prisoners" - they haven’t done so.

Mmmm - who to trust more; the illegal invaders who have a history of lying and wouldn’t know the truth if it came to their front door wearing a name-badge with "TRUTH" on it, or the people whose country is under attack from the Russians?

The Ukrainian Government is encouraging independent reporting from Western media, whilst Russia is arresting anti-war protestors and blocking social media.

I’m pretty sure we didn’t have "both sides might be lying" when Poland was invaded in 1939…