Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Yeah, it's gonna help him get past it. Now they can say 'police investigation' and the worst of the anger will have gone by then.

[Julian]

Are we soon to see a new record for "Taken into Considerations " come sentencing time?

[papa smurf]

looks like downing street staff could get fixed penalty fines if found guilty, meanwhile Sue Gray report not happening.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yeah, it's gonna help him get past it. Now they can say 'police investigation' and the worst of the anger will have gone by then.

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[Halcyon]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

looks like downing street staff could get fixed penalty fines if found guilty, meanwhile Sue Gray report not happening.

No doubt it will be brushed under the carpet.

That carpet certainly must have a lot of things underneath it by now!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Damien

Yeah, it's gonna help him get past it. Now they can say 'police investigation' and the worst of the anger will have gone by then.

I wonder if Cummings has anticipated this course of events and will react accordingly? Maybe time for some leaks on those PPE contracts?

[papa smurf]

This will work to Bojo's advantage if he is deemed to have broken no laws.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

This will work to Bojo's advantage if he is deemed to have broken no laws.

It will work to his advantage, period. As Damien has explained, the new repost from Ministers will be "Wait until he police report is published." By the time it's published people's anger will have reduced and we'll be focused on something else like fuel bills and inflation.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

This will work to Bojo's advantage if he is deemed to have broken no laws.

If Bozza doesn't get his collar felt then no need to release the report, I can see it coming. As the Met allowed it to go on under their watch they need to be seen to be doing someone or something and that someone will be a junior none of us have ever heard of (who will already be in place to take the fall in return for a nice civil service career in another department).

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

This will work to Bojo's advantage if he is deemed to have broken no laws.

you would have to look at the COVID Act (whatever it's called) said at the time. As there was "guidance" and "law" at the time. One legally mandated and one not, and the two were regularly conflated.

I certainly can't be arsed to look back but I'm sure skilled lawyers will be able to prove Boris did nothing illegal as the legislation was brought in on the hoof, not debated and was poorly written (as I recall)

So no comment until the police investigation is over (probably in about 3 months) by which time it may have all kicked off in Ukraine and no one will care.

Originally Posted by papa smurf

This will work to Bojo's advantage if he is deemed to have broken no laws.

Even if he has, Fixed penalty notices issued for offences under coronavirus legislation are non-recordable, so whether an FPN is paid or contested, it will not be recorded on the Police National Computer. Local records may be held by the relevant force.

The media at the moment going on about criminality at No. 10, but as there will be no criminal record, any FPN, issued and paid by the recipient, it won’t be criminal, unless the fine isn’t paid, when anyone pays a fine, they are releasing themselves from criminal liability and subsequent prosecution.

It’s also about ethics and leading by example.

If those who set the guidance and laws, and who were on the TV all time telling everyone to follow the guidance and laws, and also chastising in the media those who didn’t follow the guidelines and laws, are seen to be blatantly and repeatedly breaking the guidelines and laws with no comeback, when others did at often great personal emotional cost, why should anyone bother in the future?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

why should anyone bother in the future?

Which is actually one good thing to come out of it, as I don't think we'll ever see another lockdown now for that very reason. Every cloud and all that.

I think the majority of the country don’t give a shit. The rules were unnecessary anyway, 17,372 people died of Covid, not with and yeah people do unfortunately die of Pneumonia, we certainly don’t lockdown the country and the economy to prevent the spread of Pneumonia. The first lockdown, may be the first few weeks worked but by week 4, 5 and 6 people were getting fed up being locked up, effectively under house arrest.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

I think the majority of the country don’t give a shit. The rules were unnecessary anyway, 17,372 people died of Covid, not with and yeah people do unfortunately die of Pneumonia, we certainly don’t lockdown the country and the economy to prevent the spread of Pneumonia. The first lockdown, may be the first few weeks worked but by week 4, 5 and 6 people were getting fed up being locked up, effectively under house arrest.

I think they give a shit that's there's a lying, hypocritical, clown failing to run the country, and he is just having a laugh at our expense.