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			It's the done thing now isn't it. 
The slightest hint at naughty things being uncovered means you need to get the profound and sincere apologies in early.
 
I think it's a rule, mandate, directive, decree or sumfink   
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					Originally Posted by Carth  It's the done thing now isn't it. 
The slightest hint at naughty things being uncovered means you need to get the profound and sincere apologies in early.
 
I think it's a rule, mandate, directive, decree or sumfink   |  The first stage is usually the 'sorry if you were offended / upset / insert deflection emotion here' non-apology.
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					Originally Posted by Carth  It's the done thing now isn't it. 
The slightest hint at naughty things being uncovered means you need to get the profound and sincere apologies in early.
 
I think it's a rule, mandate, directive, decree or sumfink   |  Or….
 
It’s a crazy idea, but, perhaps not do the naughty things, especially if you’re the people creating the laws that say "don’t do naughty things", and are punishing others for doing the naughty things?
		 
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			From Sky Newshttps://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...#liveblog-body   
They’ve apologised, but perhaps they are waiting for the findings of the Sue Grey Enquiry before they tell us what they are apologising for, as they don’t want to pre-judge?
		
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Hard to disagree with this.  |  Yes and no.  The indiscretions had to occur to be reported on.  What this will be looked back at is how a government with a record majority managed to destroy itself.
 
Just when I think, nah Boris will ride this out, low behold another party, followed by another party.
 
Personally it doesn't bother me, and there's a lot of hypocrisy and faux outrage.
 
But I don't see how Boris gets out of this unless he comes out of hiding and just fronts it out.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Pierre  Yes and no.  The indiscretions had to occur to be reported on.  What this will be looked back at is how a government with a record majority managed to destroy itself.
 Just when I think, nah Boris will ride this out, low behold another party, followed by another party.
 
 Personally it doesn't bother me, and there's a lot of hypocrisy and faux outrage.
 
 But I don't see how Boris gets out of this unless he comes out of hiding and just fronts it out.
 |  Yup, just as we think things have quietened down, another party is reported. And then another!
 
If it wasn't for the leaks campaign against him, Johnson would be talking up coming out of the pandemic and not talking up the multi-party investigation. 
 
We simply would have been none the wiser and any party rumours would be blamed on Remainer envy.
 
I think you misjudge the mood of the nation with the term "faux outrage".
 
This is cutting through more than a donor paying for a refurb of No. 10.
 
The outrage is entirely genuine.
 
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Some sensible advice to Conservative MPs from the FT. Will Redwood et al listen?
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Hard to disagree with this.  |  
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  What is your evidence that John Redwood is in any way delinquent in respect of the current scandal?
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He's failed to announce that he has sent a letter to the 1922 Committee. If the great man announced this, lesser MPs would follow his lead and Johnson would be yesterday's man and the Conservatives would stand a better chance of retaining power in 2024.
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	That's a contrived stretch, Andrew.   It's clear from his diary (johnredwoodsdiary.com) that he is disturbed by these events and indeed his party's policy delivery failure.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  [/color]He's failed to announce that he has sent a letter to the 1922 Committee. If the great man announced this, lesser MPs would follow his lead and Johnson would be yesterday's man and the Conservatives would stand a better chance of retaining power in 2024.
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 Sensible people like JR would also need to know that in the wings was a PM in waiting.  Fellow constituents, by my account in Wokingham, don't want the nodding front bench heads.
 
 
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			Sorry Seph, but I don't think JR is going to be PM, no matter how hard you try    
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					Originally Posted by Carth  Sorry Seph, but I don't think JR is going to be PM, no matter how hard you try    |  
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			Ex-Covid taskforce head apologises for leaving drinks https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-60001927 
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		| A former Covid taskforce chief hosted leaving drinks in the Cabinet Office in December 2020, it has emerged. 
 Kate Josephs, who is now the Chief Executive of Sheffield City Council, said the event had involved people who were at work that day.
 
 She said she was "truly sorry" for taking part.
 
 Ms Josephs added that she was co-operating fully with Sue Gray's investigation into gatherings in government buildings.
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			I have no doubt Old Boy is writing to everyone who has apologised this afternoon to tell them how wrong they are and that they should have waited for the outcome of the inquiry.
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