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 Mutating all the time, not really news is it.
 
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			"NHS England said 10,462 people were in hospital in England with COVID as of 8am on 29 December. This is up 48% from a week earlier and is the highest figure since 1 March. 
In London, 3,310 people were in hospital with COVID on 29 December, up 63% week-on-week and the highest number since 16 February."
 
"90% of patients ending up in intensive care had not received booster vaccines."
 
"More than 90% of community COVID cases in England are now Omicron, according to latest data.
 
As it is now by far the dominant variant, the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) said it would stop providing Omicron-specific daily updates from 31 December."
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			04-01-2022, 13:26
			
			
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				"NHS England said 10,462 people were in hospital in England with COVID as of 8am on 29 December. 
			
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 It doesn't give a figure for Scotland, Wales, or N.Ireland . . .  and how many hospitals are there in England, just so, you know, we can work out a 'statistic' for the average English hospital bed occupancy?
 
It also doesn't give a figure for those in hospital 'solely' with Covid.
 
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				It doesn't give a figure for Scotland, Wales, or N.Ireland . . .  and how many hospitals are there in England, just so, you know, we can work out a 'statistic' for the average English hospital bed occupancy? 
It also doesn't give a figure for those in hospital 'solely' with Covid.
 
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 Why is it bad reporting to share information for England alone? That's due to devolution which is another debate entirely.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 Not received Booster Vaccine, or any vaccine?  both could be true.  I would be highly surprised if 90% of ICU patients had been double jabbed.
 
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				Why is it bad reporting to share information for England alone? That's due to devolution which is another debate entirely. 
			
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 In that case, you could also ask why Taf - a resident of Wales - is posting a story which is irrelevant to him    
 
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Interesting . . .  
 Novak Djokovic will compete at Australian Open with medical exemption
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59865959
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				World number one Novak Djokovic will defend his Australian Open title later this month after receiving a medical exemption from having a Covid-19 vaccination. 
 
All players and staff at the tournament must be vaccinated or have an exemption granted by an expert independent panel.
			
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				Applications for medical exemptions are being assessed anonymously by two separate panels, with inflammatory cardiac illness or another acute condition listed as valid reasons.
			
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Looks to me . .  I could be wrong . .  that the tennis mob are really really keen for  World number one Novak Djokovic to  defend his  Australian Open title . . .  obviously not for any monetary gain   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				It doesn't give a figure for Scotland, Wales, or N.Ireland . . .  and how many hospitals are there in England, just so, you know, we can work out a 'statistic' for the average English hospital bed occupancy? 
It also doesn't give a figure for those in hospital 'solely' with Covid.
 
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    20,217 new cases of COVID-19 reported* 
    65,860 new tests for COVID-19 that reported results* 
        34.9% of these were positive 
    38 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 
    1,031 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 
    4,383,212 people have received their first dose of a COVID-19 vaccination, 4,017,051 have received their second dose, and 2,992,583 have received a third dose or booster.
			
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36Value: 36 — Abstract information: Daily number of COVID-19 patients admitted to hospital, reported on Wednesday, 29 December 2021. 
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37,391Value: 37391 — Abstract information: Cumulative total number of COVID-19 patients admitted to hospital, reported up to Wednesday, 29 December 2021. 
 
 
Patients in hospital 
Latest available 
454. 
 
Patients in ventilation beds 
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			04-01-2022, 15:17
			
			
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Looks to me . .  I could be wrong . .  that the tennis mob are really really keen for  World number one Novak Djokovic to  defend his  Australian Open title . . .  obviously not for any monetary gain    
			
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 Yes, I think the exemption they've granted is due to the condition of being Novak Djokovic.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Yes, I think the exemption they've granted is due to the condition of being Novak Djokovic.    
			
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 Just like when he held his own super spreader event in 2020 iirc, douchebag is always the exception
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				Yes, I think the exemption they've granted is due to the condition of being Novak Djokovic.    
			
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				Just like when he held his own super spreader event in 2020 iirc, douchebag is always the exception 
			
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  They pretty much all got covid then, including Novak, his wife, Ivanisevic and most of the other players. They weren't doing any distancing (I don't think it was guidance at the time in Croatia) and I think Dimitrov had it first before pretty much everyone else got it.
 
Omicron changes the picture slightly, but there's still a school of thought that natural immunity is better as the body recognises the whole virus rather than the (now heavily mutated) spike proteins which the vaccines inject.
 
I'm not the greatest Nole fan, but he is probably the greatest men's tennis player the world has ever seen, given that Fed won't play, Nadal has been injured much of the last term, and has also just had covid, and Murray has been struggling with his hip for a while now, he's really the only one of the Big Four still left - and the younger generation haven't really seized the initiative yet. The tournament would be much worse off without him, so I suspect this is for financial/sponsorship reasons. You'd expect there would be various quarantine/testing rules on him as he isn't vaccinated but in principle you'd be asking all players, fans, ball kids, umpires, line judges etc to do daily LFTs before going...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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Spot on mate, thinks he can do what the hell he likes, a thoroughly dislikeable **** imo.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				It doesn't give a figure for Scotland, Wales, or N.Ireland . . .  and how many hospitals are there in England, just so, you know, we can work out a 'statistic' for the average English hospital bed occupancy? 
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				In that case, you could also ask why Taf - a resident of Wales - is posting a story which is irrelevant to him   [COLOR="Silver"]  
			
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 Scotland had a 4-day holiday, so no stats have been released, ditto the only company in the UK that distributes LFT's.
 
I've not seen any stats for N. Ireland for ages, and the ones for Wales come out in an odd 7-day cycle.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				On 26 December 2021 a total of 5 acute trusts did not submit data (Whittington Health, Bradford Teaching, East Cheshire, Northern Care Alliance, Hampshire Hospitals). Three of these trusts (Whittington Health, Bradford Teaching, Northern Care Alliance) did not submit data in respect of the previous day’s return. Data submissions on 24 December showed that these 5 acute trusts had a total of 281 Covid patients on that date. The impact of the missing data submissions should be borne in mind when interpreting both the level of national and regional figures and the recent trend. 
On 27 December 2021 a total of 3 acute trusts did not submit data (County Durham and Darlington, East Cheshire, and Buckinghamshire).  These 3 trusts had 98 Covid patients based on their respective latest submissions.  In addition there were a number of  NHS MHLDA trusts which did not submit data on that date. These trusts reported in the region of 120 Covid patients on their latest submissions. The impact of the missing data submissions should be borne in mind when interpreting both the level of national and regional figures and the recent trend.
			
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