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			Boris Johnson has always been a liar he's incapable of taking any personal responsibility until he's forced to the man has the integrity and honour of a slug.  The fact his backstabbing and games got him into downing street is a sad reflection on the quality of our political system and perfectly highlights why I'm not bothering at the next election I don't think I'll be alone.
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					Originally Posted by Blackshep  Boris Johnson has always been a liar he's incapable of taking any personal responsibility until he's forced to the man has the integrity and honour of a slug.  The fact his backstabbing and games got him into downing street is a sad reflection on the quality of our political system and perfectly highlights why I'm not bothering at the next election I don't think I'll be alone. |  Politicians rely on that, their reasoning will be if enough people give up, are turned off and don't bother it'll be down to the hard-core sociopaths that see no wrong in anything they do to decide it, it'll be worse than some two bit dictatorship
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					Originally Posted by TheDaddy  Politicians rely on that, their reasoning will be if enough people give up, are turned off and don't bother it'll be down to the hard-core sociopaths that see no wrong in anything they do to decide it, it'll be worse than some two bit dictatorship |  Yes, it's part of the problem and not part of the solution. But a very understandable gut reaction.
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					Originally Posted by Paul  An alleged party, 12 months ago ?Nope it had no efect on me at all, how did it affect you ?
 
 Im sure a percentage think they should becasue the media make such a fuss about it, and the [anti] social media warriors tell them they should.
 
 They'll just move onto whatever they are told to care about next, no doubt with equal "outrage".
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					Originally Posted by Blackshep  Boris Johnson has always been a liar he's incapable of taking any personal responsibility until he's forced to the man has the integrity and honour of a slug.  The fact his backstabbing and games got him into downing street is a sad reflection on the quality of our political system and perfectly highlights why I'm not bothering at the next election I don't think I'll be alone. |  
Regarding the bold part, the turnout for elections is, and has been for a long time, quite low.  It's almost as if the general public have, over the years, sussed out that it doesn't matter who gets in, nothing ever changes.
 
The only time there's a decent voter turnout is when something 'big' is on offer . .  like the Brexit referendum . .  where people could see that a vote for what they wanted, or didn't want, could actually make a difference to the outcome.
 
Politics, and the Governance of the country, is tied up by large businesses and political correctness . .  no matter who is in power, the public are a fair way down the ladder of importance . . .  and they know it     
My wife and daughter have never, to my knowledge, ever voted for anything, and I - at 67 years of age - have only voted about 5 times . . .  and once was a 'protest' vote for BNP      
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					Originally Posted by papa smurf  Who didn't break the rules a little  on xmas gatherings   |  
I know people that met family over Christmas, are ironically calling for Boris to go, yet they refuse themselves to quit their jobs 
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					Originally Posted by Hom3r  I know people that met family over Christmas, are ironically calling for Boris to go, yet they refuse themselves to quit their jobs |  They aren't the ones who set the laws forbidding others to do so.
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					Originally Posted by ianch99  I am sure those who, on that day a year ago, followed the rules and were unable to be with their loved ones when they died in hospital are "affected". I suspect that they are bloody livid. |  Yes, I'm sure its right up there as one of their top concerns this week.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Paul  Yes, I'm sure its right up there as one of their top concerns this week. |  Yes, there have been several people in the news who lost loved ones who have said it is a concern for them
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					Originally Posted by Paul  I'm sure they have, to the media, surprisingly. |  Traced and found by the media too probably     
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					Originally Posted by Carth  Traced and found by the media too probably    |  They are vultures around a death sadly.
		 
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					Originally Posted by Paul  I'm sure they have, to the media, surprisingly. |  These people seem to be also think it's worth their concern and they're not media as far as I'm aware but relatives of those lost during the pandemic 
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					Originally Posted by Hom3r  I will vote as god help us if Liebour gets in, as they would immediately rejoin the EU and surrender Stirling
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