Coronavirus

[nffc]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

The thing to focus on is protecting the NHS from the new moronic variant, in case it gets overwhelmed by people who aren't getting ill enough to get to hospital at present though we haven't allowed enough time to know the facts on this yet, and let's not forget it has a death rate of zero at this present moment though again we haven't allowed long enough to see so it's not to be sniffed at

With my bold it's probably more accurate

Originally Posted by Chris

Pretty much the way things are in Scotland, as those restrictions were never lifted. However here you’re meant to have a mask on in a restaurant except when seated at your table so the English rules are still slightly more relaxed in that respect. In cinemas in my experience most people treat them like restaurants and masks come off as soon as people are seated and remain off throughout. As almost everyone is nursing a bucket of popcorn and a large drink it would be very difficult to determine if anyone was really breaking the rules.

Eating and drinking is an exception and always has been.


Taking it off and on when moving around is a bit silly for me in any context. Just distance people and encourage table service.

[pip08456]

The fear mongering has started.

Omicron cases could exceed one million a day by the end of this month, on the current trajectory, the Health Secretary has said.

Sajid Javid said the actual number of infections of the variant already in this country was likely to be close to 10,000 - a figure 20 times higher than that which has been confirmed.

He told the Commons: "Although there are only 568 confirmed Omicron cases in the UK we know that the actual number of infections will be significantly higher.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ay-says-sajid/

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by pip08456

The fear mongering has started.



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ay-says-sajid/

The softening up process: Get the proles afraid of their own shadows.

Or…

Highlight worst-case scenario, and if it isn’t that bad, take credit for the measures in place…

.... or both.

Get everyone afraid of their own shadows, and then take the 'credit' when the world doesnt actually end.

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According the the BBC reports (about an hour ago) ;

The UK records 249 new Omicron cases, of these, 248 cases were in England and one in Scotland.

The UK has recorded 249 new cases of the Omicron variant, taking the total number of cases recorded to 817.

What it doesnt seem to indicate is how much Delta [other] cases are falling, which is just as important, is one simply replacing the other, or not.

[jonbxx]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

That's harsh.

You think that's harsh, OSHA (the US equivalent of the Health and Safety Executive) is mandating either vaccination or at least weekly testing for all companies with at least 100 employees - https://www.osha.gov/sites/default/f...s/OSHA4162.pdf The state my company is in mainly were ahead of the OSHA initiative.

This is being challenged in court though...

[nffc]

Originally Posted by Paul

.... or both.

Get everyone afraid of their own shadows, and then take the 'credit' when the world doesnt actually end.

---------- Post added at 15:54 ---------- Previous post was at 15:50 ----------

According the the BBC reports (about an hour ago) ;

The UK records 249 new Omicron cases, of these, 248 cases were in England and one in Scotland.


What it doesnt seem to indicate is how much Delta [other] cases are falling, which is just as important, is one simply replacing the other, or not.

Well, most cases are clearly still Delta given that we registered around 50k in the UK today (down from around 53k last Thurs, but still a high amount).


Though Javid is probably not wrong when he suggests that the amount may be a lot higher. It is always the situation though, people don't get tested because they think it's a cold, or because they don't have a fever, or various situations. Or if they don't have any symptoms at all.



But then the studies in things like zoe have always said that the amount of covid is higher than the testing.



It's too early I suppose, as we have too few omicron cases (you'd expect the vast majority of omicron cases would show the s-gene dropout which isn't usually observed in delta when a PCR test is done) to see if these are just going to replace delta, or have been seen where you don't have a significant delta outbreak, e.g. where people have come back from abroad, isolated and tested positive for omicron on a PCR, then given it to family or the kids have gone to school or something, which leads to a small amount of spread which is localised.

[Carth]

I can put my hand up and say "I have never had a test"

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Carth

I can put my hand up and say "I have never had a test"

why not?

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

why not?

Never felt I had the need to, and not daft enough to take a randomly spontaneous one

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by pip08456

The fear mongering has started.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ay-says-sajid/

I'm just waiting for around the 20th December.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

I'm just waiting for around the 20th December.

Which year . . . or will it be every year?

[papa smurf]

Will Boris save xmas or will he save us by banning xmas.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Will Boris save xmas or will he save us by banning xmas.

Boris is probably more concerned with saving his own hide and swerving nappy duty right now.