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				but not in  cases of covid. 
			
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 Or will the Austrian protests be about lockdown rather than mandatory vaccination? 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			20-11-2021, 14:42
			
			
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				Or will the Austrian protests be about lockdown rather than mandatory vaccination? 
 
			
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 For now probably lockdown, but if vaccines become mandatory expect the schyt 
to connect with the fan.
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			20-11-2021, 14:58
			
			
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			Gosh that looks like it could get quite nasty . . .  then heavens here in the UK our biggest issues are racist cricketers and a lack of au pairs   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			20-11-2021, 15:27
			
			
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				Vaccination mandates? Only where the vulnerable are the ones at risk.If you want to work in a care home it just seems a sensible step that you must be vaccinated. 
But then I've been living with vaccinations all my life having been born in Nigeria where my father as a Medic in the Colonial Service had to vaccinate patients at the bush surgeries he was required to hold.No one said no back in the 50s to vaccinations. I remember the smallpox scare when I was 6 or so in London.No one said no then.Just yes please. 
 
Anyway haven't we been accepting for years that if you travelled abroad to countries that insisted visitors be vaccinated you got vaccinated? 
			
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 It's all well and good mandating vaccines in the healthcare industry but there is a chronic staff shortage and it was already at and over the 100K mark, homes are closing across the UK because they do not have the staffing to keep them open, homes around our area are having to keep the capacity itself much lower than the home itself can take because there is not enough staff, agency staff places are stretched and they can no longer plug the holes in staffing in various locations, end result, hospital beds are stuck, filled with the elderly who are unable to moved in to a care home. 
 
Vaccine mandates in the healthcare industry are a counter productive measure because noone likes to be dictated to or told they have to do something against their will. In Scotland and Wales, where mandates are not in place the uptake on vaccination has been higher with those hesitant to be vaccinated, through encouragement and education of the vaccine. Our government has took the lazy option for England and it's going to take it's toll over time.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			20-11-2021, 16:36
			
			
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				"A new analysis by WHO has concluded that the vast majority of cases of COVID-19 in Africa are not being detected. At time of the analysis, Oct 10, 2021, Africa had recorded around 8·4 million SARS-CoV-2 infections, and 217 000 deaths (the continent has since reported another 200 000 or so infections and 2000 deaths). WHO calculated that the true number of infections was seven times higher than the reported figure. The same analysis showed that two in three deaths from COVID-19 are not being registered in Africa."
			
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			20-11-2021, 16:56
			
			
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				"A new analysis by WHO has concluded that the vast majority of cases of COVID-19 in Africa are not being detected. At time of the analysis, Oct 10, 2021, Africa had recorded around 8·4 million SARS-CoV-2 infections, and 217 000 deaths (the continent has since reported another 200 000 or so infections and 2000 deaths). WHO calculated that the true number of infections was seven times higher than the reported figure. The same analysis showed that two in three deaths from COVID-19 are not being registered in Africa."
			
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			20-11-2021, 17:52
			
			
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			Email received... scam of course 
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				NHS - National Health Service (UK) 2021 
 
20/11/2021 
 
Hello xxxxxxxxxxxx@ntlworld.com 
 
The NHS is performing selections for coronavirus vaccination on the basis of family genetics and medical history. You have been selected to receive a coronavirus vaccination. 
Those holding such a document will be able to travel throughout Europe without the need to quarantine or test for COVID-19 
 
 
Through the certificate, the Commission intends to remove travel restrictions as entry bans, quarantine obligation, and testing. 
 
 
Please confirm or reject your invitation by selecting an option below: 
 
 
  
 
N H S *UK- ACCEPT INVITATION > > 
 
 
N H S *UK- DECLINE INVITATION > > 
 
 
The Passport will be issued to all those who have been fully vaccinated against the Coronavirus, with one of the four vaccines approved by the National Medicine Agency, which are: 
 
AstraZeneca, Pfizer, Moderna and Janssen (Johnson & Johnson) 
 
 
The certificate will prove that its holder has been vaccinated while also containing additional information on the vaccine, as when the doses were administered, who is the manufacturer, etc. 
 
 
Who can use this service 
 
 
You can only use this service if you have received an email/SMS regarding this invitation. You can not use this service for anyone other than yourself. 
 
 
You are also free to reject this invitation, your appointment will be issued to the next person in line in that case. 
 
 
You are required to reply to this invitation within 12 hours of this notification. 
 
 
2021 NHS Crown Copyright@UK
			
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			20-11-2021, 18:23
			
			
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			Well this certainly makes it unlikely to be real. 
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 I'm confused though, what's the actual scam here ? The links maybe ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Well this certainly makes it unlikely to be real. 
 
 
I'm confused though, what's the actual scam here ? The links maybe ? 
			
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 The links were blocked by VM mail, so I suspect it was.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Well this certainly makes it unlikely to be real. 
 
 
I'm confused though, what's the actual scam here ? The links maybe ? 
			
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			20-11-2021, 19:45
			
			
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			Yep, the links then, to a dodgy site.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			New restrictions (in Europe) dont seem to be going down as well this time around. 
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			Nothing to see here, just a warning among antivaxxers to wear boots to the protests because the city of Vienna "plans to vaccinate them through manhole covers". 
 
Sounds a bit painful, being injected through the manhole…
 
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			21-11-2021, 14:33
			
			
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			As if we didn't need another reason to find antivaxxers ludicrous, they come up with that.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			21-11-2021, 16:12
			
			
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			Please stop counting everyone with questions and concerns as ludicrous as with everything there is a lunatic tiny minority that is absolutely not indicative of all those not wanting the vaccine.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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