UK Energy Prices - Page 8

**Paul** · 02-10-2021, 01:55

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Originally Posted by Taf

If you use less than the price cap level, can they charge you right up to the cap level?

If you use more than the price cap level, does all your usage get charged at a higher rate?

No in both cases.

The price cap is simply the max you must pay for 'average' use, so the unit prices must be set accordingly.

If you use more, you pay more, if you use less, you pay less.
The issue I was having was finding what the actual 'average' usage figures were.

Taf · 02-10-2021, 11:45

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Originally Posted by Paul

The issue I was having was finding what the actual 'average' usage figures were.

It's the same here. And I've trawled the Internet for the actual figures.

Carth · 02-10-2021, 11:53

Might be time for people to start ringing companies and asking the question . . somebody has to know

Jaymoss · 02-10-2021, 12:06

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Originally Posted by Taf

It's the same here. And I've trawled the Internet for the actual figures.

2900 kwh electric 12000 kwh gas

**Paul** · 02-10-2021, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

2900 kwh electric 12000 kwh gas

Did you just make them up ? or do you have something to back them up ?

Jaymoss · 02-10-2021, 23:34

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Originally Posted by Paul

Did you just make them up ? or do you have something to back them up ?

I did have a link for them at the time of posting I will find it again by googling the numbers

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Here you go https://www.ukpower.co.uk/home_energ...ctricity-usage

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here is an ofgem document on them https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/sites/defau...n_letter_0.pdf

Hom3r · 04-10-2021, 12:02

Bulb have raised their prices up to 80%

**Chris** · 04-10-2021, 12:25

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Originally Posted by Hom3r

Bulb have raised their prices up to 80%

Presumably you’re just talking about their gas prices? My higher electricity prices with them are now in effect, but they’ve gone up from from 18.876p to 20.824p per kWh with a standing charge increase from 26.881p to 27.384p per day.

When I joined them about 3 years ago they were 14.543p per kWh with the standing charge at 20.444p. I haven’t actually checked for a while to see if they’re still the cheapest for me but I suspect these rates are still pretty good. I can’t get dual fuel because we have no mains gas here.

**Hugh** · 04-10-2021, 13:09

Shell's standard tariff for Electricity (DD only) is 27.410p standing charge per day, and a unit rate of 18.981p per kWH (according to this site).

They also have Economy 7

Day rate 21.730p
Night rate 12.415p
Standing charge 27.490p

https://www.switch-plan.co.uk/suppli...nergy/tariffs/

Jaymoss · 04-10-2021, 13:29

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Shell's standard tariff for Electricity (DD only) is 27.410p standing charge per day, and a unit rate of 18.981p per kWH (according to this site).

They also have Economy 7

Day rate 21.730p
Night rate 12.415p
Standing charge 27.490p

https://www.switch-plan.co.uk/suppli...nergy/tariffs/

18.9p is actually cheap in this day and age. I still do not know what Octopus is going to charge me yet

**Chris** · 04-10-2021, 13:30

I should go give them a look … only thing to be aware of is that a component of the electricity charge is paid to the local distribution network operator. In our case that’s the Scottish highlands half of SSE, whose charges are particularly high. The prices you will get quoted for service at your postcode are likely to be cheaper than for mine.

Jaymoss · 04-10-2021, 13:30

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Originally Posted by Chris

Presumably you’re just talking about their gas prices? My higher electricity prices with them are now in effect, but they’ve gone up from from 18.876p to 20.824p per kWh with a standing charge increase from 26.881p to 27.384p per day.

When I joined them about 3 years ago they were 14.543p per kWh with the standing charge at 20.444p. I haven’t actually checked for a while to see if they’re still the cheapest for me but I suspect these rates are still pretty good. I can’t get dual fuel because we have no mains gas here.

I was paying 14p ish with Avro up till they crashed my new charges are gonna be a shock

1andrew1 · 04-10-2021, 17:34

Not a surprise, Bulb customers will probably be happy at least in the short term.

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Ovo Energy is preparing a bid for rival energy supplier Bulb in a move that would consolidate the Bristol-based company’s position as one of the biggest electricity and gas providers in Britain.

Lossmaking Bulb has been working with its bankers at Lazard to explore new sources of funding or a deal with a rival supplier in a bid to secure its future, as Britain’s energy supply sector battles against record wholesale gas and power prices.

https://www.ft.com/content/6114abb9-...0-d874d4c33112

Taf · 04-10-2021, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

2900 kwh electric 12000 kwh gas

Our annual electricity hovers just above 4000kwh (just below their 4,300 HIGH level), whilst our gas is just above 7,000kwh (1,000 below their 8,000 LOW level).

So does the cap apply in our case? I fear not.

**Chris** · 04-10-2021, 18:11

We use 7,500kWh electricity a year but no gas. Mind you our biomass bill more than makes up for that…