Coronavirus

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Unfortunately the number of deaths paints another picture.

But the maths that I posted suggests a finish point to the epidemic side of this.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What's the number of people in hospital?

Didn't my maths a few posts ago paint a reasonable picture?

Not sure on hospitalisations but today we have 1000 people on mechanical ventilation which is the highest it’s been since March

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Not sure on hospitalisations but today we have 1000 people on mechanical ventilation which is the highest it’s been since March

Yes - but 8 months ago it was 4,000 on ventilators.

What about my mathematical projections?

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

But the maths that I posted suggests a finish point to the epidemic side of this.

As far as I can see , your maths is based on the situation not changing with regards to variants. In eighteen months we have had four variants of concern

The greater the amount of cases, the greater chance of new variants, the more new variants the greater chance there is of one that causes us problems in our recovery.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Yes - but 8 months ago it was 4,000 on ventilators.

What about my mathematical projections?

Answered above, have you seen what’s happening in Scotland btw ?

[Sephiroth]

Variants will be dealt with by updated vaccines. But yes, we've just got to get through the next 3 or so months without a deadly variant arising.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Variants will be dealt with by updated vaccines. But yes, we've just got to get through the next 3 or so months without a deadly variant arising.

It’s not really as simple as that though is it ? Unless you’re planning on doing a New Zealand/ Australia border closure policy for the considerable future

Then there’s how much re-engineering is required to update the vaccine and then trials/ production. Which in a potential nasty variant could take what? Months ?

We are still in a reactionary phase at the moment unfortunately

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1912567.html

We've got complacent. Schools and Unis back soon, the Govt wanting everyone to commute on packed trains into packed offices and autumn/winter on the way.

What could possibly happen? Answers on a postcard....

You really need to stop reading the MSM……………

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Unfortunately the number of deaths paints another picture.

A bit of critical thought is all you need

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

You really need to stop reading the MSM……………

Pierre, why do you persist in lapping up the latest conspiracy theory? You're clever enough to work out that all the world's media can't be in on some big conspiracy but yet again you fall into the same populist trap of believing such nonsense. It can't be a good place to be.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Pierre, why do you persist in lapping up the latest conspiracy theory? You're clever enough to work out that all the world's media can't be in on some big conspiracy but yet again you fall into the same populist trap of believing such nonsense. It can't be a good place to be.

What exactly in those two posts is incorrect?

The MSM headline of 207 deaths, that Mr K latched onto like a good doggy, the biggest total since whenever……….

But the reality is shown to not be that.

Not a conspiracy just poor journalistic standards. Has that been misreported/misrepresented or not?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Pierre, why do you persist in lapping up the latest conspiracy theory? You're clever enough to work out that all the world's media can't be in on some big conspiracy but yet again you fall into the same populist trap of believing such nonsense. It can't be a good place to be.

Especially as he keeps telling us he doesn’t care about Covid.

I dread to think where he is in his own mind about things he does care about if he puts such negative energy into despising people on furlough and finding deaths amusing.

He should focus his energy on getting me that list of credible economic journals I asked for, or the difference between a vaccine and a booster. I suspect I’ll be disappointed and none will appear.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Especially as he keeps telling us he doesn’t care about Covid.

I dread to think where he is in his own mind about things he does care about if he puts such negative energy into despising people on furlough and finding deaths amusing.

He should focus his energy on getting me that list of credible economic journals I asked for, or the difference between a vaccine and a booster. I suspect I’ll be disappointed and none will appear.

Typical 5:00am ramblings. did you hit your head on the way to the bathroom?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Typical 5:00am ramblings. did you hit your head on the way to the bathroom?

No just up early. I thought where else would I rather be than the Covid thread to get your delightful insights.

Andrew got you pretty much nailed on in his last post.

What’s the latest conspiracy that the 207 people reported to have died (WITH Covid, but not OF Covid ) aren’t dead and were escorted to Diego Garcia on MH-370 where they were greeted on the tarmac by Elvis?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

What exactly in those two posts is incorrect?

The MSM headline of 207 deaths, that Mr K latched onto like a good doggy, the biggest total since whenever……….

But the reality is shown to not be that.

Not a conspiracy just poor journalistic standards. Has that been misreported/misrepresented or not?

One minute you're telling us that you shouldn't judge an author on his other books, now you're advising Mr K to stop reading mainstream media on the basis of a single article from a loss-making online-only newspaper!

Sorry Pierre, but I'm really struggling to see any logic in the contradictory arguments you're now making.

The reality is that you may have a valid point about that article, I don't know. But in your desire to use this article to condemn all mainstream media - presumably because it doesn't act as an echo chamber for your views on managing Covid 19 - you've failed to explain why the article is wrong.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

One minute you're telling us that you shouldn't judge an author on his other books, now you're advising Mr K to stop reading mainstream media on the basis of a single article from a loss-making online-only newspaper!

Sorry Pierre, but I'm really struggling to see any logic in the contradictory arguments you're now making.

The reality is that you may have a valid point about that article, I don't know. But in your desire to use this article to condemn all mainstream media - presumably because it doesn't act as an echo chamber for your views on managing Covid 19 - you've failed to explain why the article is wrong.

Essentially the straw which he is, without much dignity, clutching to is that the 207 reported didn’t necessarily die the day before. Or in a 24 hour window at all.

The same point has been made throughout yet that doesn’t change the fact they are dead, and there have always been anomalies in reporting around weekends and public holidays.

It seems a waste of all that privilege Pierre has to use it up with such pedantry in a lame, failed attempt at outwitting us minions. Yet here we are.