Coronavirus

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Partly, but it has been modified to tackle the variant.

As for the first part of your post, this is your imagination working overtime. Things can be fast tracked, and the South African variant was known about last year and hasn’t arrived on these shores in any great numbers yet.

You are looking for problems where there aren’t any. Solutions are now at hand.

Sorry, mate, but you are going to have to go back to normal. I’m not sure what you are worried about, whether it’s furlough being terminated, going back to the office or what, but whatever is motivating your desperate wish to keep restrictions in place, you will just have to get used to it. It is all at an end now (and hopefully, overseas travel will soon be back to near normal as well).

As you’ve been told a million times, there’s no going back to 2019. I’d say it is you that has to adjust, but as someone unaffected by restrictions I’d guess you are retired in your slippers either way.

I’d also say that furlough being terminated is a legitimate concern for anyone in receipt of it - as there is no return to normal it’s their jobs and livelihoods on the line as people spend less money. Somewhere between hiding under the stairs in their ivory towers and simply taking personal responsibility the economy will be operating differently for years to come.

We’re not going back to lockdowns and all the associated crap, that’s just how it is.

Associated crap is an interesting way of delaying death until we found a vaccine.

Now, where was that nightclub I was thinking of going to when normality returned?

Now that’s funny. I hope you have your ID.

[Sephiroth]

That’s interesting (Chris’ post). Delta has been around for much longer than the 6 weeks’ development period. I don’t think we’ve heard a squeak from the vaccine bods. Anyone know anything?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by jfman

As you’ve been told a million times, there’s no going back to 2019.

Agreed, the World's changed and our patterns of behaviour have changed. There's no going back to 2019.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

That’s interesting (Chris’ post). Delta has been around for much longer than the 6 weeks’ development period. I don’t think we’ve heard a squeak from the vaccine bods. Anyone know anything?

The focus switched to the Alpha variant earlier in the summer and I believe some updated vaccines are about to arrive which target that. I suspect the focus has now further switched to delta but the planned alpha batches will have to come through first.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Chris

The focus switched to the Alpha variant earlier in the summer and I believe some updated vaccines are about to arrive which target that. I suspect the focus has now further switched to delta but the planned alpha batches will have to come through first.

There was a lot of focus on Beta because based on lab testing it was believed to have a greater risk of vaccine escape. In the end, Delta is usurping them all.

But anyway...

"Pfizer and BioNTech ... are developing an updated version of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine that targets the full spike protein of the Delta variant. The first batch of the mRNA for the trial has already been manufactured at BioNTech’s facility in Mainz, Germany. The Companies anticipate the clinical studies to begin in August, subject to regulatory approvals."
https://investors.biontech.de/news-r...am-light-delta
(dated 8th July 2021)

Beta is the variant formerly known as South Africa IIRC?

In any case it’s good news that they’ve managed to make progress with a Delta vaccine. I suspect by this time next year we will all be getting a single-dose boost of a Delta variant jab, if not from Pfizer then from one of the other manufacturers, as I suspect they’re all making similar moves.

Of course there is still a shed-load of original flavour vaccine sloshing around, and that’s what we’ve all been jabbed with this year. I expect the various advisory boards will continue to recommend this is used up rather than discarded, given the level of protection it affords.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris

Beta is the variant formerly known as South Africa IIRC?

In any case it’s good news that they’ve managed to make progress with a Delta vaccine. I suspect by this time next year we will all be getting a single-dose boost of a Delta variant jab, if not from Pfizer then from one of the other manufacturers, as I suspect they’re all making similar moves.

Of course there is still a shed-load of original flavour vaccine sloshing around, and that’s what we’ve all been jabbed with this year. I expect the various advisory boards will continue to recommend this is used up rather than discarded, given the level of protection it affords.

Here you go.... taken from the bbc


Delta or B.1.617.2, the dominant variant in the UK
Alpha (B.1.1.7) first identified in the UK but which spread to more than 50 countries
Beta (B.1.351) first identified in South Africa but which has been detected in at least 20 other countries, including the UK
Gamma (P.1), first identified in Brazil but which has spread to more than 10 other countries, including the UK

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The above are variants of concern, however the WHO have announced another variant of interest entitled 'Mu'

One wonders if it's justified & ancient or does it perhaps drive an ice cream van.......

Or indeed if it knows what time is love

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Here you go.... taken from the bbc


Delta or B.1.617.2, the dominant variant in the UK
Alpha (B.1.1.7) first identified in the UK but which spread to more than 50 countries
Beta (B.1.351) first identified in South Africa but which has been detected in at least 20 other countries, including the UK
Gamma (P.1), first identified in Brazil but which has spread to more than 10 other countries, including the UK

---------- Post added at 16:51 ---------- Previous post was at 16:40 ----------

The above are variants of concern, however the WHO have announced another variant of interest entitled 'Mu'

One wonders if it's justified & ancient or does it perhaps drive an ice cream van.......

That's the burning, million Pound question.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Chris

Or indeed if it knows what time is love

When the nightclubs open of course

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

That's the burning, million Pound question.

Cap doffed sir

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Chris

Or indeed if it knows what time is love

3am, surely?

Originally Posted by spiderplant

3am, surely?

Eternally so

[Mr K]

The UK’s coronavirus death toll has risen by 207 – the highest number of fatalities reported for six months.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1912567.html

We've got complacent. Schools and Unis back soon, the Govt wanting everyone to commute on packed trains into packed offices and autumn/winter on the way.

What could possibly happen? Answers on a postcard....

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/h...-b1912567.html

We've got complacent. Schools and Unis back soon, the Govt wanting everyone to commute on packed trains into packed offices and autumn/winter on the way.

What could possibly happen? Answers on a postcard....

What's the number of people in hospital?

Didn't my maths a few posts ago paint a reasonable picture?

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What's the number of people in hospital?

Didn't my maths a few posts ago paint a reasonable picture?

Unfortunately the number of deaths paints another picture.