Britain outside the EU

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

With our weak recovery, they would probably be paying us.

We would be "at the back of the queue".

[1andrew1]

More broken Brexit promises?

Ministers accused of failing to secure rights of Britons with foreign spouses in EU

Campaigners say Britons are facing problems with Home Office over rights to return to UK

Ministers have been accused of breaching their promise to secure the post-Brexit rights of thousands of British nationals who settled in the EU and married foreigners.

Campaigners at British in Europe (BiE) have written to the Foreign Office minister Wendy Morton and the immigration minister Kevin Foster telling of the “heartbreak” and “distress” endured by British citizens who are facing problems with the Home Office over their rights to return home to the UK...

Another woman, married to a British man for six years, with their own business and mortgage-free home in the Czech Republic, said they had applied to the Home Office in January for a permit and were told they would have to wait two weeks. They are still waiting. “We find it appalling that our EU friends can stay in the UK with their non-EU spouse yet I don’t even have the permission to enter the country,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-spouses-in-eu

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

More broken Brexit promises?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-spouses-in-eu

I dare say it is more to do with the notoriously chaotic Home Office staff rather than anything the government has done.

They have until 2022 before they have to apply for a permit.

[Carth]

Why on earth would a successful business woman in the Czech Republic, married to a British citizen, and with a mortgage free house, want to come to the UK for?

Why can't she get a holiday visa like anyone else?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

Why on earth would a successful business woman in the Czech Republic, married to a British citizen, and with a mortgage free house, want to come to the UK for?

Why can't she get a holiday visa like anyone else?

Jellied eels, whelks, cockles - all mortgage free.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

More broken Brexit promises?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-spouses-in-eu

No.

As is plainly obvious from the story you linked to.

Just bog-standard Home Office civil service incompetence. If we reach the point where people who have been promised settlement are actually being told they can’t have it, at that point it’s a broken promise. As of right now, it’s just another desperate scrabble in the mud for a “broken Brexit promise” story.

I’m sure it won’t stop you trying though.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Chris

No.

As is plainly obvious from the story you linked to.

Just bog-standard Home Office civil service incompetence. If we reach the point where people who have been promised settlement are actually being told they can’t have it, at that point it’s a broken promise. As of right now, it’s just another desperate scrabble in the mud for a “broken Brexit promise” story.

I’m sure it won’t stop you trying though.

They're NOT in the UK. They want to come to the UK. That is a different matter.

One heavily pregnant British woman living in Barcelona said she could not come home to visit her father, who has recently suffered a brain injury, after her husband was refused a permit.

Why does somebody's husband need to come to the UK in order for the wife to visit her father?

Olivia Hughes said her Moroccan husband, Abdel, a legal Spanish resident, had been refused a permit because of paperwork and was now on a knife-edge over a potential appeal which may force her into a first tribunal court case.
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"They could have just asked for the extra paperwork but instead refused. An appeal could take months or a year and then we miss the deadline for pre-settled status.”

AFAIK, the effect of any favourable appeal is backdated, and is effective as of the date of the original unfavourable decision.

“The sad thing is it is making problems between us. To not be able to come back with my husband when an emergency happens is just really difficult to swallow.

So no actual reason or need for moving back to the UK, just a what if? Sounds like immigration fraud to me, so that he can leave her behind in Spain, and come to the UK himself.

Yes, why would a heavily pregnant woman want her husband with her?

One heavily pregnant British woman living in Barcelona said she could not come home to visit her father, who has recently suffered a brain injury, after her husband was refused a permit. Olivia Hughes said her Moroccan husband, Abdel, a legal Spanish resident, had been refused a permit because of paperwork

Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes, why would a heavily pregnant woman want her husband with her?

I can see why she would, however I’m sure you can see the devil in the detail there. The husband isn’t an EU citizen, he’s Moroccan, and just so happens to have legal permission to reside in Spain. Tragic though it is, immigration permits for non-EU citizens are an entirely different matter. I’d be surprised if his immigration route to the UK had been any different prior to Brexit. We were never in Schengen so his paperwork would always have been checked at his port of entry.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Yes, why would a heavily pregnant woman want her husband with her?

Given all the time that must have passed from applying onwards, then either she has been "7 months pregnant" for a long time, or she wasn't at the time of applying, and therefore being "heavily pregnant" now is immaterial to the case.
A visit is just that, no need for entitlement to residency.
If he has a legal Spanish passport, then he can visit, just as any legal Spanish passport holder can visit.

Why should a UK MP get involved over 2 people living in Spain?

An appeal could take months or a year and then we miss the deadline for pre-settled status.”

They want to come here and get pre-settled status. What is pre- anything about that? Shouldn't pre-settled status be for people already here for some time?

To have been granted pre-Settled Status by 30 June 2021, a person must have shown their UK residence met these conditions:

1. The residence began before 11.00pm on 31 December 2020 (the end of the transition period)
2. The person can prove they have been resident in the UK in the 6 months up to the start of their residence before 31 December 2020
3. They have not subsequently broken their continuous residence in the UK.

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Originally Posted by Chris

I can see why she would, however I’m sure you can see the devil in the detail there. The husband isn’t an EU citizen, he’s Moroccan, and just so happens to have legal permission to reside in Spain. Tragic though it is, immigration permits for non-EU citizens are an entirely different matter. I’d be surprised if his immigration route to the UK had been any different prior to Brexit. We were never in Schengen so his paperwork would always have been checked at his port of entry.

If he's not an EU citizen, then pre-settled status can never apply.

[TheDaddy]

Anyone know why you can't get a milkshake in McDonald's in England Scotland or Wales but you can in N Ireland? Doesn't particularly bother me as I don't really like them from there but is there a reason besides the one intimated?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Anyone know why you can't get a milkshake in McDonald's in England Scotland or Wales but you can in N Ireland? Doesn't particularly bother me as I don't really like them from there but is there a reason besides the one intimated?

Liberated from the dead hand of the corrupt EU, the UK's economy has soared ahead, leading to some very limited supply-side issues at KFC, Nando's and McDonalds as demand races ahead. Northern Ireland is fortunate enough to share a border with a lagging EU country with excess capacity so can be supplied from there.

Northern Ireland almost certainly shares the same supply chain as ROI and the milkshakes are most likely manufactured there.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Anyone know why you can't get a milkshake in McDonald's in England Scotland or Wales but you can in N Ireland? Doesn't particularly bother me as I don't really like them from there but is there a reason besides the one intimated?

We should have remained in the EU so that important companies like Nando's and McD's cannot inconvenience the British masses.
Obviously. Re-apply now.

[nomadking]

The HGV driver shortage is Europe wide.

Link

In the UK the shortfall a shortfall of at least 76,000 drivers. Across Europe the total reaches 400,000 drivers according research by Transport Intelligence.
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The driver shortages have been affecting the global road freight market for around 15 years.

Just as with medical staff, there is nobody around to employ, no matter what the pay and conditions.
The problem is that too many people get a "nose-bleed", if they are expected to work too far, or for too long, away from home.