Which person is worse?

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

No I don't, it's you that needs to do that.

Funnily enough, I think you’ll find that the majority of people are in agreement with me.

Now, off you pop….

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Funnily enough, I think you’ll find that the majority of people are in agreement with me.

Now, off you pop….

This is expected behaviour from an internet Troll.

They get off on harrasing those who they perceive as inferior or weaker than themselves. It gives those who feel powerless IRL an outlet for their dissatisfaction.

There are other vulnerable and minority groups on here, I wonder if you will go on to start following them around the forum with your juvenile & unpleasant comments, or of it only gives you a buzz to try and spoil the forum for people in my situation. Whose to know.

[SnoopZ]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

This is expected behaviour from an internet Troll.

They get off on harrasing those who they perceive as inferior or weaker than themselves. It gives those who feel powerless IRL an outlet for their dissatisfaction.

There are other vulnerable and minority groups on here, I wonder if you will go on to start following them around the forum with your juvenile & unpleasant comments, or of it only gives you a buzz to try and spoil the forum for people in my situation. Whose to know.

What a load of Bo****cks, you should look in the mirror at yourself and take your blinkers off, what's next are you going to attack me and call me a troll because I agree with him and then the next person etc?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

What a load of Bo****cks, you should look in the mirror at yourself and take your blinkers off, what's next are you going to attack me and call me a troll because I agree with him and then the next person etc?

I have no issue at all with people who disagree with the views of others, after all, debating, comparing views and sometimes changing the minds of others or having your own mind changed is what it's all about.

When it's done in such a rude, belittling and disrespectful way is when it ceases to be a debate and becomes trolling.

This is particularly relevant when the same behaviour has been present in a previous thread that got closed due to arguments instead of the subject being discussed.

It appears to me that this individual has purposely come into this thread to carry on what they could no longer do in the closed thread. Little of relevance to the topic(s) has been posted, just rudeness and criticism with no explanation at all. It's very disappointing to see such an interesting thread about a very serious subject being purposely derailed like this.

I don't think that you are a troll because you haven't been following me around the forum stirring things up and engaging in troll like behaviour.

Out of respect for the OP, I suggest that we now get back to the subjects in hand as I personally find it to be a very interesting topic.

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Coincidentally, it's been on this evenings news about the Prince Andrew allegations and this actually relates to a point I made earlier.

Which people are defined as children (and therefore whether engaging in sexual activity with them is appropriate or not) isn't absolute and varies by country and culture. It, therefore, follows that whether someone is a sex offender depends on their geographical location!

If the alleged offence of sex with an underage girl had of taken place on the UK, it wouldn't be an issue as (in this instance) the girl was over 16.

However, in the place where it is alleged to have taken place, because of differing definitions about what is or isn't appropriate, it becomes an issue.

I believe that the state where it is claimed the incident took place allows for sex with those aged 14 and above, with the proviso that the partner must be under 18.

Therefore, situations can and do arise where it's perfectly legal for a 14 year old girl to have sex with her 15 year old boyfriend but, as soon as he hits 18, all sexual activity must cease until she becomes 18 or over!

You do seem to spend a lot of time and effort defending alleged sex offenders…

You defend Prince Andrew by giving an example that isn’t relevant (Andrew isn’t under 18).

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You do seem to spend a lot of time and effort defending alleged sex offenders…

You defend Prince Andrew by giving an example that isn’t relevant (Andrew isn’t under 18).

And he claimed accusations had been made about certain GB News presenter masturbating in front of year 9's, which was far worse than the original tweet on twitter and when pulled up on his outrageous misrepresentation he doubles down and starts quoting the law

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You do seem to spend a lot of time and effort defending alleged sex offenders…

You defend Prince Andrew by giving an example that isn’t relevant (Andrew isn’t under 18).

Nope, don't know where you've got that idea from. I'm trying to show that whether an act is a sex offence or not isn't cut and dried. It depends where it's done.

As long as there are no complaints, it's acceptable to have sex with a 12 year old in Mexico*. Imagine if someone did that here! They'd be in serious trouble because it's worse to have sex with a non teenager.

* If Brtish citizens did this though they can be prosecuted by the UK.

Prince Andrew isn't under 18 no, that's why, if proved to be true, he will have committed an offence. If he had done it here it would have been fine from an age point of view (though there is the additional accusation of sex trafficking that wouldn't be).

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

And he claimed accusations had been made about certain GB News presenter masturbating in front of year 9's, which was far worse than the original tweet on twitter and when pulled up on his outrageous misrepresentation he doubles down and starts quoting the law

That's correct, accusations of this nature were made. How many threads are you going to cross post this in?

To say you're supposed to be so shocked and outraged, you seem to be obsessed with what is now old news.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

That's correct, accusations of this nature were made. How many threads are you going to cross post this in?

To say you're supposed to be so shocked and outraged, you seem to be obsessed with what is now old news.

No accusations of that nature were made except by you, don't you understand the difference between saying a presenter was doing that in front of year nines and another year nine was doing that in front of other year nines? I am genuinely shocked you can't see the difference, grimey is lucky he just became a national joke because gossips like you misrepresenting what was said could have got him killed.

Perhaps instead of looking at it as being ganged up on look at it as can all these people be wrong, perhaps it's not us it's you after all

[Russ]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Perhaps instead of looking at it as being ganged up on look at it as can all these people be wrong, perhaps it's not us it's you after all

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

A disability should never be punished as it won't have been done on purpose (but the public would need to be protected from them). They may not have even known that they were doing it or were suffering from hallucinations or delusions.

How about when someone tries to blame their awful actions on their disability?

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Russ

How about when someone tries to blame their awful actions on their disability?

I'm expecting* at least one person strenuously denying that ever happens, followed by other people posting quite a few links to show it has.


*If I'm right it's because I'm clever, if I'm wrong it's because I'm an old fart who doesn't understand the question

As much as I am enjoying the to and fro I suspect this is a thread that's facing closure if everyone doesn't calm down and
avoid name calling.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

This is expected behaviour from an internet Troll.

They get off on harrasing those who they perceive as inferior or weaker than themselves. It gives those who feel powerless IRL an outlet for their dissatisfaction.

There are other vulnerable and minority groups on here, I wonder if you will go on to start following them around the forum with your juvenile & unpleasant comments, or of it only gives you a buzz to try and spoil the forum for people in my situation. Whose to know.

Sorry, just to clarify, are you accusing me of 'picking on you' because you have a disability?



1. I'm not picking on you because of your disability, I'm criticizing you heavily because of your toxic opinion.

2. Pretty sure you've been told by the mods about doing that before.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Carth

I'm expecting* at least one person strenuously denying that ever happens, followed by other people posting quite a few links to show it has.


*If I'm right it's because I'm clever, if I'm wrong it's because I'm an old fart who doesn't understand the question

I’d certainly be interested to hear the response.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

No accusations of that nature were made except by you, don't you understand the difference between saying a presenter was doing that in front of year nines and another year nine was doing that in front of other year nines? I am genuinely shocked you can't see the difference, grimey is lucky he just became a national joke because gossips like you misrepresenting what was said could have got him killed.

Perhaps instead of looking at it as being ganged up on look at it as can all these people be wrong, perhaps it's not us it's you after all

These accusations were made in the media and not by myself. You seem hung up about this for some inexplicable reason, but the post made it clear that in these allegations, he was of a similar age to the other children. As previously stated, however, I doubt that the parents would find it any more acceptable because of this.

I can only think of one reason why you repeatedly regurgitate this in thread after thread that has nothing to do with this allegation. After going through this on at least four previous occasions and, considering that it does not concern you in any way, there is rrally nothing further to add.

I acknowledge that my disability affects my cognitive skills and can affect my ability to express myself effectively. This is true of all neuro diverse people.

As a result of this, and because I believe that you are gaslighting me, the contents of this thread have been reviewed by a disability support worker. In addition, I sent a link to it to a close friend who volunteers for Childline.

Neither party believes that it is me that is at fault here.

I hope that you are enjoying the output of GB News.

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Originally Posted by Russ

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How about when someone tries to blame their awful actions on their disability?

I'm sure that this has happened, sometimes legitimately, sometimes not (but I have no personal experience of this, so must rely on the medical experys).

The acts of the Yorkshire Ripper were caused by his mental health illnesses, so it can and does happen and is correct.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I'm sure that this has happened, sometimes legitimately, sometimes not (but I have no personal experience of this, so must rely on the medical experys).

The acts of the Yorkshire Ripper were caused by his mental health illnesses, so it can and does happen and is correct.

Here's the reason I specifically asked.

It's been noticed by some that my use of CF over the past 5/6 years has diminished. This is because I devoted a lot of my time to being part of a paedophile hunting group. Now I'm not interested in the discussion about whether they're a force for good or not (at least not in this thread) but I can tell you that in the 150 or so stings/cases I was involved with, I'd estimate 80% of the people caught claimed it was because they have ADHD, Aspergers, Autism, depression etc.

As a sufferer of ADHD and Aspergers myself that made my blood boil. I'm not disputing whether or not they had had any of the mentioned conditions. But their 'disability' was so often their go-to excuse for their behaviour.

Such disabilities are NEVER a legitimate reason for such behaviour.