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		|  28-07-2021, 11:16 | #6766 |  
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					Originally Posted by pip08456  Except they need no help with vax's. They are quite self sufficient in that regard. |  From your link…
 
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		| although its biggest vaccine maker has been struggling to meet demand. |  With our help, they can vaccinate more and quicker, thus reducing the change of further adverse mutations (also reducing sickness, hospitalisations, and deaths, hopefully).
		 
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		|  28-07-2021, 11:25 | #6767 |  
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 With our help, they can vaccinate more and quicker, thus reducing the change of further adverse mutations (also reducing sickness, hospitalisations, and deaths, hopefully).
 |  I wonder whether or not India has got itself conflicted on hard currency arising from vaccine sales and prioritisation of inoculating the Indian population.
 
 I would have thought that whatever the UK could contribute would be a drop in the ocean, although it might really be intended for political purposes.
 
 Looking at this cynically, Covid might be a nice little earner for India as well as introducing a degree of population control/reduction.
 
 
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		|  28-07-2021, 11:52 | #6768 |  
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					Originally Posted by Hugh  From your link…
 With our help, they can vaccinate more and quicker, thus reducing the change of further adverse mutations (also reducing sickness, hospitalisations, and deaths, hopefully).
 |  That's not down to the capacity they have now or could have with government direction, but existing orders and commitments to other countries.
 
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					Originally Posted by Sephiroth  I wonder whether or not India has got itself conflicted on hard currency arising from vaccine sales and prioritisation of inoculating the Indian population.
 
 I would have thought that whatever the UK could contribute would be a drop in the ocean, although it might really be intended for political purposes.
 
 Looking at this cynically, Covid might be a nice little earner for India as well as introducing a degree of population control/reduction.
 
 |  BBC story on it here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-57007004 
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		| Between January and May 2021, India bought roughly 350 million doses of the two approved vaccines - the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab, manufactured as Covishield by the Serum Institute of India (SII), and Covaxin by Indian firm Bharat Biotech. At $2 per dose, they were among the cheapest in the world, but not nearly enough to inoculate even 20% of the country's population. 
 Declaring that India had defeated Covid, Mr Modi even took to "vaccine diplomacy", exporting more jabs than were administered in India by March.
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		|  28-07-2021, 12:00 | #6769 |  
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			I seem to recollect reading that India has recently ramped up it's vaccine production, as well as ordering further millions of doses from elsewhere.
 I would imagine that anything the UK produces, after being distributed for use here and to fulfill existing contracts, is probably a drop in the ocean for India.
 
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		|  29-07-2021, 13:01 | #6770 |  
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		| Summer holiday trips to and from France will depend on infection rates and the presence of Covid variants on an island 6,000 miles away, the foreign secretary has warned. 
 On 16 July, ministers moved France from “amber list” status to a new “amber plus” category. The effect is to oblige all arriving travellers from France, including those who have been fully vaccinated against coronavirus, to self-isolate in the UK. The reason stated: the prevalence of the Beta variant, which is much more significant on the island of Réunion in the Indian Ocean than it is in mainland France.
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		|  29-07-2021, 13:57 | #6771 |  
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			Sounds like the stupid (yet correct) result a computer would come up with if tasked to include all regions of France.
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		|  29-07-2021, 17:57 | #6772 |  
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			Well done Spain and Canada! They hold Silver and Gold medals for percentage of the population fully vaccinated whilst the UK holds a highly-respectable respectable Bronze. https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...964291/photo/1 
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		|  29-07-2021, 19:08 | #6773 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  Well done Spain and Canada! They hold Silver and Gold medals for percentage of the population fully vaccinated whilst the UK holds a highly-respectable respectable Bronze. https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...964291/photo/1 
(Based on top 50 countries by population so excludes Israel.) |  Spain Doses Administered 
55,185,352 
People Fully Vaccinated 
26,420,097 
% of Population Fully Vaccinated 
56.12%
 
United Kingdom Doses Administered 
85,017,108 
People Fully Vaccinated 
37,610,911 
% of Population Fully Vaccinated 
56.27%
 
Canada Doses Administered 
48,176,339 
People Fully Vaccinated 
21,651,918 
% of Population Fully Vaccinated 
57.60%
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		|  29-07-2021, 19:46 | #6774 |  
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					Originally Posted by pip08456  Spain Doses Administered 
55,185,352 
People Fully Vaccinated 
26,420,097 
% of Population Fully Vaccinated 
56.12%
 
United Kingdom Doses Administered 
85,017,108 
People Fully Vaccinated 
37,610,911 
% of Population Fully Vaccinated 
56.27%
 
Canada Doses Administered 
48,176,339 
People Fully Vaccinated 
21,651,918 
% of Population Fully Vaccinated 
57.60%
Source |  Yup…
   
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		|  29-07-2021, 20:54 | #6775 |  
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					Originally Posted by pip08456  Spain Doses Administered 
55,185,352 
People Fully Vaccinated 
26,420,097 
% of Population Fully Vaccinated 
56.12%
 
United Kingdom Doses Administered 
85,017,108 
People Fully Vaccinated 
37,610,911 
% of Population Fully Vaccinated 
56.27%
 
Canada Doses Administered 
48,176,339 
People Fully Vaccinated 
21,651,918 
% of Population Fully Vaccinated 
57.60%
Source |  Yup, one day later and we've got silver!
 
These are some more worrying vaccination rates though: 
DRC Flag of Congo - app 0% 
Haiti - app 0% 
Uganda - 0.01% 
Burkina Faso - 0.02% 
Papua New Guinea - 0.03% 
Yemen - 0.03% 
Chad - 0.04% 
And it goes on!
https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/st...52824192290817 
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		|  29-07-2021, 22:05 | #6776 |  
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			What am I misunderstanding?
 
 https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
 
 UK First dose:     88.4%
 UK second dose: 71.4%
 
 
 
 
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		|  29-07-2021, 22:15 | #6777 |  
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			I think it means 88.4% of the UK population have had one dose, and 71.4% have had 2 doses. 
although I don't think 37,782,252 people is 71% of the UK population is it? The  46,733,115 figure is about right for 71%.
 
figures eh, I'm only good with the hourglass ones, and it looks like someone screwed up and mixed theirs too   
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		|  29-07-2021, 22:41 | #6778 |  
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			Percentage of adults, probably.  Given different countries have different policies around vaccinating teenagers, comparing adults is probably more reliable as a comparison point.
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		|  29-07-2021, 23:57 | #6779 |  
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(Based on top 50 countries by population so excludes Israel.) |  What sort of nonsense is this?  Doses as a % of population is meaningless.
 
 % of eligible population, i.e. adults, is what matters.
 
 
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		|  30-07-2021, 11:49 | #6780 |  
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			I was reading that "ethical vegans" may get an exemption from "compulsory vaccinations" (e.g. possible workplaces) as they can refuse vaccines that possibly, maybe have been tested at some point on animals.
		 
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