General Olympics

Mr K · 20-07-2021, 09:09

Starts tomorrow unbelievably, although the opening ceremony won't be till the weekend.

Soccer: GB Women v Chile Women @8:30 am No spectators allowed

Shame we still can't agree between the 4 nations to get a men's team.

denphone · 20-07-2021, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Starts tomorrow unbelievably, although the opening ceremony won't be till the weekend.

Soccer: GB Women v Chile Women @8:30 am No spectators allowed

Shame we still can't agree between the 4 nations to get a men's team.

And on Wednesday is Baseball and softball two sports to pique your interest Mr K.

Mr K · 20-07-2021, 10:16

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And on Wednesday is Baseball and softball two sports to pique your interest Mr K.

We should enter our 20/20 "cricket' team for Baseball. Same thing

**Damien** · 20-07-2021, 10:45

Such a shame for Japan that their Olympics has to be like this. I think Tokyo would have been great hosts with everyone there.

nomadking · 20-07-2021, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Mr K

Starts tomorrow unbelievably, although the opening ceremony won't be till the weekend.

Soccer: GB Women v Chile Women @8:30 am No spectators allowed

Shame we still can't agree between the 4 nations to get a men's team.

There would be constant whinging from the Scots and Welsh.

The thinking also goes that if GB/UK can form a team, then there would be pressure for that to continue in other competitions.

tweetiepooh · 20-07-2021, 10:53

I think that certain sports don't belong in the Olympics - soccer, rugby etc other than the quick smaller versions 5 a side/7's. It seems trying to squeeze in 90/80 minute games with just 2 teams in a full 2 week event is too much. The smaller format may allow more teams to compete and spectators could get to see multiple games within a time period.

I'd like to see field archery included along side target, especially 3D (shoot at models of animals). I think it would make interesting viewing. I'm biased being a toxophilite.

It is a shame about the changes needed because of Covid.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

There would be constant whinging from the Scots and Welsh.

The thinking also goes that if GB/UK can form a team, then there would be pressure for that to continue in other competitions.

Rugby manages with individual teams and the Lions. And that includes the fun with the Irish being from either side of "the border".

nomadking · 20-07-2021, 11:17

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Rugby manages with individual teams and the Lions. And that includes the fun with the Irish being from either side of "the border".

I'm just repeating the reasons given some time ago to that question. Playing of Rugby is on a very different scale to football/soccer.
The separate football associations in the UK is a bit of anomaly. Historically just the way the sport developed.

TheDaddy · 20-07-2021, 11:45

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There would be constant whinging from the Scots and Welsh.

The thinking also goes that if GB/UK can form a team, then there would be pressure for that to continue in other competitions.

No, the worry is England, Wales and Scotland all have a vote on the FIFA board or IFAB which decides the laws of the game, that's what might be in jeopardy with an amalgamated team

Not sure I'll bother with this olympics tbh, just seems a bit pointless

nomadking · 20-07-2021, 12:34

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No, the worry is England, Wales and Scotland all have a vote on the FIFA board or IFAB which decides the laws of the game, that's what might be in jeopardy with an amalgamated team

Not sure I'll bother with this olympics tbh, just seems a bit pointless

Really where did you get that from? Not sure the FAs of the UK would be that bothered by only having a single vote. Mine was from an actual news report, some time ago.
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They each established their own football associations and national teams before the start of the modern Olympic movement.
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Ongoing concerns that FIFA could eventually force the home nations to field a unified men's team in all competitions prevented Great Britain's participation in Tokyo.

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The FIFA council only has one UK member out of 37, and that is as a representative of UEFA, not UK.
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IFAB was created by the UK FAs and then FIFA joined it.
The International Football Association Board (The IFAB) was founded in 1886 by the four British football associations (The FA, Scottish FA, FA of Wales and Irish FA) as the worldwide body with sole responsibility for developing and preserving the Laws of the Game.
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FIFA joined in 1913, completing the current board of The IFAB and representing nowadays the 207 national associations that exist worldwide.

TheDaddy · 20-07-2021, 13:00

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Really where did you get that from? Not sure the FAs of the UK would be that bothered by only having a single vote. Mine was from an actual news report, some time ago.
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The FIFA council only has one UK member out of 37, and that is as a representative of UEFA, not UK.
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From the opposition to the 2012 Olympic team and they are bothered, it's not even like even joined together we can out vote fifa as they have seven votes and we have three combined but for some reason it really matters to Scotland and Wales FA's, suppose it is quite prestigious. I remember them saying their independence was at stake as teams but I can't believe they were that concerned by that really

denphone · 20-07-2021, 14:24

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Such a shame for Japan that their Olympics has to be like this. I think Tokyo would have been great hosts with everyone there.

l agree as sport can be very soulless without spectators there.

**Chris** · 20-07-2021, 14:29

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From the opposition to the 2012 Olympic team and they are bothered, it's not even like even joined together we can out vote fifa as they have seven votes and we have three combined but for some reason it really matters to Scotland and Wales FA's, suppose it is quite prestigious. I remember them saying their independence was at stake as teams but I can't believe they were that concerned by that really

FIFA has repeatedly stated that it is not interested in forcing the home nations to combine. It stated this with particular force prior to 2012 when the desirability of a Team GB entry in the football competitions was especially strong.

It suits the Welsh and the Scottish FAs to push this line but really it’s just a fig leaf for their own sense of inferiority, most likely because any GB football team is inevitably going to be dominated by English players and management. History has gifted these two FAs a level of influence they could never earn or pay for and they’re extremely paranoid about losing it.

TheDaddy · 20-07-2021, 15:48

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FIFA has repeatedly stated that it is not interested in forcing the home nations to combine. It stated this with particular force prior to 2012 when the desirability of a Team GB entry in the football competitions was especially strong.

It suits the Welsh and the Scottish FAs to push this line but really it’s just a fig leaf for their own sense of inferiority, most likely because any GB football team is inevitably going to be dominated by English players and management. History has gifted these two FAs a level of influence they could never earn or pay for and they’re extremely paranoid about losing it.

Succinctly put and entirely accurate imo

Hom3r · 21-07-2021, 10:47

I'm going to watch Skateboarding with the 13-year-old Sky Brown, the youngest to represent our country.

Last year she had a serious accident, and if she wasn't wearing her helmet she would have died.

She is highly rated.

Mr K · 22-07-2021, 08:46

Just watched a bit of softball, just like baseball but more tedious. God knows how either got in the Olympics. Probably something to do with US networks and money.

They need some proper sports like rugby, cricket, tiddlywinks...

Anyway Sweden are beating the US 1-0 at soccerball so that's all good