Coronavirus

[jfman]

An interesting read from outside the bubble of British Exceptionalism. Vaccine evasion in action and risks going forward.

https://assets.researchsquare.com/fi...f?c=1624377344

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

An interesting read from outside the bubble of British Exceptionalism. Vaccine evasion in action and risks going forward.

https://assets.researchsquare.com/fi...f?c=1624377344

[jfman]

Originally Posted by pip08456

It’s a good job I’m neither a clinician or a media stenographer. My conclusion was “an interesting read”.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by jfman

It’s a good job I’m neither a clinician or a media stenographer. My conclusion was “an interesting read”.

Had you left it at the end of the first sentence I'd agree. As usual though you also had to add to it.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Had you left it at the end of the first sentence I'd agree. As usual though you also had to add to it.

My second sentence merely addresses the subject at the heart of the paper so I fail to see why it’s so objectionable.

Time will tell as evidence arises elsewhere as to the veracity of the paper. Hopefully not in our hospitals.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

[COLOR="Blue"]Taking stock of the big picture:

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It seems to me that CV behaves like flu but is more infectious than most flu strains.

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It seems to me that flu is under control because of vaccines, for which new strains can be quickly countered.

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It seems to me that CV is coming under control because of vaccines, for which new strains can (apparently) be quickly countered.

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Ergo, it seems to me that we can resume BAU, perhaps except for ...

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The virulence of CV-19 and thus of a new strain that beats the current vaccines requires vigilance and perhaps pre-emptive measures that, no doubt, the Guvmin will declare.

For gods sake Don’t mention the F word.

You’ll have Hugh, pulling you up in July 2022 about it.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

For gods sake Don’t mention the F word.

You’ll have Hugh, pulling you up in July 2022 about it.

Ooops.

[Hom3r]

I should have met my sister to restart or Saturday morning breakfasts in McDonald's.

But she called me to say her hubby did a LFT, and it said positive, so he's isolated himself in their bedroom that has on-suite, and she is on the sofa, her and the kids did a test, and it was negative, they will do another one on Monday.

So I'm on stand by to do their food shops.

My niece called her work, they are OK with it.

So until his LFTs show negative, or they test positive they won't join him, but if my sister goes positive she will join hubby and the kids will have to do the food.

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

I should have met my sister to restart or Saturday morning breakfasts in McDonald's.

But she called me to say her hubby did a LFT, and it said positive, so he's isolated himself in their bedroom that has on-suite, and she is on the sofa, her and the kids did a test, and it was negative, they will do another one on Monday.

So I'm on stand by to do their food shops.

My niece called her work, they are OK with it.

So until his LFTs show negative, or they test positive they won't join him, but if my sister goes positive she will join hubby and the kids will have to do the food.

They should all arrange to have PCR test, LFT's are OK but the PCR tests are better.

They should definitely get a PCR test ;

* you and anyone you live with should self-isolate immediately
* report your rapid lateral flow test result on GOV.UK as soon as possible
* get a PCR test (a test that is sent to a lab) to confirm your result

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/corona...e-test-result/

[spiderplant]

Also

So until his LFTs show negative,

A negative LFT doesn't mean he's clear of the disease. He needs to self-isolate as per the rules.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Also

A negative LFT doesn't mean he's clear of the disease. He needs to self-isolate as per the rules.

And the rest of the family too for 10 days, though it seems sensible to have the husband living slightly separately.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Nobody is stopping the terminally paranoid from staying in the cupboard under the stairs for the rest of their lives. The rest of us will be glad to get back to some form of normality and get rid of those horrible masks.

Wearing masks protects others from you, as long as other people are wearing them I'll extend the same courtesy, it'd be rude not to.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Wearing masks protects others from you, as long as other people are wearing them I'll extend the same courtesy, it'd be rude not to.

And while they could do as heero_yuy suggests it’s economically undesirable. People took that much personal responsibility in Sweden they went into recession anyway despite “no restrictions”.

Restrictions, especially those enforced via the law, do need to end at some point though. If the legal requirement isn't removed now then when? The summer strikes me as a useful point because any surge can happen now rather than the winter.