Coronavirus

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So if Boris extends by 4 weeks, what comes next?

Hopefully a full public and criminal enquiry as to where the cash has gone, tens of billions on track and trace not to mention the billions shoved into into the pockets of friends cronies and doners

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Hopefully a full public and criminal enquiry as to where the cash has gone, tens of billions on track and trace not to mention the billions shoved into into the pockets of friends cronies and doners

More likely: Dido Harding becomes head of NHS England
https://www.hsj.co.uk/workforce/dido...030235.article

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Breaking: Sky News has received a leak indicating a four-week postponement will be announced.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...ource-12332022

[papa smurf]

Postponement = a total failure of every thing we have done to combat the virus ,it says we can't rely on the vaccines ,social distancing has failed, hands face space are just empty words, business's have been destroyed for no good reason, we have wasted our time, four weeks will evolve into another four weeks and this madness will go on forever

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Postponement = a total failure of every thing we have done to combat the virus ,it says we can't rely on the vaccines ,social distancing has failed, hands face space are just empty words, business's have been destroyed for no good reason, we have wasted our time, four weeks will evolve into another four weeks and this madness will go on forever

Probably a new super spreading variant every month, just to keep us on our toes

Originally Posted by papa smurf

Postponement = a total failure of every thing we have done to combat the virus ,it says we can't rely on the vaccines ,social distancing has failed, hands face space are just empty words, business's have been destroyed for no good reason, we have wasted our time, four weeks will evolve into another four weeks and this madness will go on forever

You are Old Boy and I claim my ten pounds…

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You are Old Boy and I claim my ten pounds…

Now now it's only worth a fiver...

Beeb now also reporting the four-week leak.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57464097

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Chris

Beeb now also reporting the four-week leak.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57464097

Leak? it's becoming a flash flood

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

Leak? it's becoming a flash flood

The dams collapsed

Originally Posted by Hugh

You are Old Boy and I claim my ten pounds…

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So if Boris extends by 4 weeks, what comes next?

Get vaccinations moving.

In the last 7 days we did over a million first doses and over two million second doses. A significant shift of the odds in our favour.

Meanwhile huge swathes of the economy can press forward as the spectre of another lockdown and increased restrictions moves further and further away.

Steve Baker’s wet dream of a freedom day probably won’t happen, but many restrictions can be eased in a safer way in 4 weeks. Working from home will continue for many (indeed, for many employers it’ll be a new normal hybrid way of working post-Covid), a mask recommendation will likely remain.

If anyone wants to look at a success story look at Israel. A success that is 100% within our grasp if we take the correct course of action rather than snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

No shot, Sherlock…

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...ister-12332121

COVID-19: 'Possible' putting India on red list earlier might have prevented impending lockdown delay - minister

[jonbxx]

I looked back at the conditions for the grand reopening and how they kit with where were are now. Here's my take;

1. Vaccination programme continues to go to plan - We seem to be steady going but clearly, the more we have vaccinated the better
2. Evidence shows vaccines are reducing deaths and numbers requiring hospital treatment - weak but growing stronger evidence
3. Infection rates do not risk surge in hospital admissions - hospitalisations are going up in the worst hit regions. The big question is by how much as we are still on the upwards curve
4. New variants do not change the risk of lifting restrictions - Unfortunately, the Delta variant came along a little late in the day so this we're not sure about

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

I looked back at the conditions for the grand reopening and how they kit with where were are now. Here's my take;

1. Vaccination programme continues to go to plan - We seem to be steady going but clearly, the more we have vaccinated the better
2. Evidence shows vaccines are reducing deaths and numbers requiring hospital treatment - weak but growing stronger evidence
3. Infection rates do not risk surge in hospital admissions - hospitalisations are going up in the worst hit regions. The big question is by how much as we are still on the upwards curve
4. New variants do not change the risk of lifting restrictions - Unfortunately, the Delta variant came along a little late in the day so this we're not sure about

What's your conclusion, Jon? Mine would be to err on the side of caution given the outward spread of the variant. I would have thought that in these circumstances, at least 70% double dosed population would provide the cover needed to lift restrictions. I suspect that was always the plan/hope, let down by vaccine availability.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by jonbxx

[*]New variants do not change the risk of lifting restrictions - Unfortunately, the Delta variant came along a little late in the day so this we're not sure about

That's a sub section that really has no relevance, considering the ease at which people - and their infection - can come & go from this country once/when restrictions are lifted.
The next new variant* will throw us back again once it's 'data and analysis proven' that it's more infectious and more resistant to the vaccinations.


*you read it here first