29-04-2021, 23:46
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Coronavirus
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On the contrary Pierre.
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go on then .
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no need for vaccination as to those you deem 'safe'
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so those, in your head, deemed not to be needed to be vaccinated, must be vaccinated.
Yes, Herr Mengele. Bring in the next subject
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That in itself always brings us back to the same risk - overwhelming the limited capacity of NHS resource. As you well know, I've told you often enough.
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oh you can “tell me” (you can’t tell me anything) the nhs is not, and has not been, under stress for a long time.
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And certainly not choosing to vaccinate kids, will not put it under any further stress
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you are absolutely correct, it will not. We agree.
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when the ignorant decide rules no longer apply to them when they should. Or, en masse they no longer need to be vaccinated.
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Mao would be so proud.
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As long as we keep pushing up the price of bang average family package holidays though with PCR tests I think we should we good.
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Yes, the best way to beat this is to prevent the poorer people in society to have a holiday. If we just let the privileged go on holiday we’ll save our granny.
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29-04-2021, 23:50
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Re: Coronavirus
Pierre I urge you to retract the bit you've thrown there in the middle that you've absolutely made up but thrown into quotations regardless to present it as if I've said it.
I thought you were better than that.
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30-04-2021, 00:20
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
Pierre I urge you to retract the bit you've thrown there in the middle that you've absolutely made up but thrown into quotations regardless to present it as if I've said it.
I thought you were better than that.
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I will happily and respectfully retract anything that you feel I have misrepresented on your behalf. I am not here to cause upset.
That said, I haven’t put in quotations anything you haven’t posted.
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30-04-2021, 00:26
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
I will happily and respectfully retract anything that you feel I have misrepresented on your behalf. I am not here to cause upset.
That said, I haven’t put in quotations anything you haven’t posted.
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tbf, comparing someone to Josef Mengele (the Angel of Death), who performed deadly experiments on prisoners, and was a member of the team of doctors who selected victims to be killed in the gas chambers, with someone who has suggested that teenagers have a covid vaccine, could be seen as ‘over the top’.
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30-04-2021, 00:43
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
I will happily and respectfully retract anything that you feel I have misrepresented on your behalf. I am not here to cause upset.
That said, I haven’t put in quotations anything you haven’t posted.
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Where did you manufacture this one?
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And certainly not choosing to vaccinate kids, will not put it under any further stress
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It doesn't sound like something I'd say. Especially as one of the biggest sceptics of the AZ vaccine on the board in terms of it's ability to reach HIT.
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tbf, comparing someone to Josef Mengele (the Angel of Death), who performed deadly experiments on prisoners, and was a member of the team of doctors who selected victims to be killed in the gas chambers, with someone who has suggested that teenagers have a covid vaccine, could be seen as ‘over the top’.
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In fairness Pierre has proven himself one tier above an anti-vaxxer.
Ironic really, as they are the true lockdown lovers.
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30-04-2021, 05:24
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Re: Coronavirus
It's simple for me, it'll either disappear or it'll evolve into something entirely new that isn't covid 19 and that thing will either be more or less potent than the virus we have now, after the sacrifices we've all made why role the dice and give it the chance to evolve, we were in a race against the virus and now it's almost won we're going to let selfish people who are so conceited they think they know better than the experts that have almost dragged us out of this mess put us right back to square one, well imo if we let them then it's only right these people are as inconvenienced as much as possible for that privilege
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30-04-2021, 07:36
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The Dark Satanic Mills
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Re: Coronavirus
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It doesn't sound like something I'd say. Especially as one of the biggest sceptics of the AZ vaccine on the board in terms of it's ability to reach HIT.
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I am not in the business of manufacturing quotes.
As seen as it appears you edited your original post I can only assume you removed that passage of text? Post me quoting it.
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tbf, comparing someone to Josef Mengele (the Angel of Death), who performed deadly experiments on prisoners, and was a member of the team of doctors who selected victims to be killed in the gas chambers, with someone who has suggested that teenagers have a covid vaccine, could be seen as ‘over the top’.
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If the cap fits.
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In fairness Pierre has proven himself one tier above an anti-vaxxer.
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I’m so anti-vax I’ve had both the flu jab and Covid jab in recent months.
We don’t give kids the flu jab ( and I’m not say Covid is the flu) but 10’s of thousands of people die from the flu most years? Why don’t we vaccinate everybody against the flu, why don’t we go for zero flu?
The pressure the winter flu wave regularly puts on the NHS could be stopped if we vaccinated everybody every year against the flu.
I’m just not in favour of unnecessary vaccinations, it is known that even “safe” vaccines carry risk. There is no need to vaccinate a child against something that doesn’t make it ill.
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30-04-2021, 08:34
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Re: Coronavirus
You’ve 100% pulled that quote from nowhere.
Now we are onto “safe” vaccines. Slippery slope Pierre but I suppose we should have seen it coming. And a flu comparison to entertain us some more.
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30-04-2021, 08:58
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Re: Coronavirus
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I’m just not in favour of unnecessary vaccinations, it is known that even “safe” vaccines carry risk. There is no need to vaccinate a child against something that doesn’t make it ill.
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I'm sure the families of the handful of under 18's who have lost their lives to something that doesn't make children I'll will be the first to agree with you. I'm afraid you've got a very selfish attitude and prey it doesn't come back to bite you. I wouldn't know how I'd cope if something happened to our daughter (even now in her 30's) especially if there was something I could have done to try and prevent it.
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30-04-2021, 08:59
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Re: Coronavirus
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I'm sure the families of the handful of under 18's who have lost their lives to something that doesn't make children I'll will be the first to agree with you. I'm afraid you've got a very selfish attitude and prey it doesn't come back to bite you. I wouldn't know how I'd cope if something happened to our daughter (even now in her 30's) especially if there was something I could have done to try and prevent it.
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Pierre loves lockdown that much he’s disagreed with every viable way out.
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30-04-2021, 09:18
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Re: Coronavirus
At the moment we're not even vaccinating children against COVID. They're still testing the vaccine for children and then will make a more cautious risk assessment when it comes time to make the decision. Children are already being considered a different case when it comes to this vaccine because the virus doesn't really seem to hurt them. The vaccine will therefore only be used if they decide it's still safer to have the vaccine than to have COVID.
They won't recommend children get the vaccine if the vaccine poses a small but still higher risk than COVID irrespective of the public health benefits.
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30-04-2021, 09:21
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Pierre
We don’t give kids the flu jab ( and I’m not say Covid is the flu) but 10’s of thousands of people die from the flu most years? Why don’t we vaccinate everybody against the flu, why don’t we go for zero flu?
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Technically true, all children up to the age of 12 (year 7) get flu vaccinations through nasal spray so no jabs but they do get vaccinated. Older kids with underlying health conditions get vaccinated too - https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccin...d-flu-vaccine/
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01-05-2021, 16:01
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Re: Coronavirus
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There is no evidence that COVID causes any issues for Children (that don't have other complications)
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Cases of Kawasaki (mucocutaneous lymph node syndrome) in under-5s have surged. The trigger is pulmonary lung virus infections like covid-19 SARS2. There is also a variant of Kawasaki being found that attacks the gut, not the lungs.
Hospitals have been prewarned of a surge of admittances, as it usually requires hospital treatment.
1,300 kids dead from it in Brazil.
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01-05-2021, 19:06
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Re: Coronavirus
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Cases of Kawasaki (mucocutaneous lymph node syndrome) in under-5s have surged. The trigger is pulmonary lung virus infections like covid-19 SARS2. There is also a variant of Kawasaki being found that attacks the gut, not the lungs.
Hospitals have been prewarned of a surge of admittances, as it usually requires hospital treatment.
1,300 kids dead from it in Brazil.
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But they're not Pierre's kids so hey ho
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01-05-2021, 19:22
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Re: Coronavirus
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But they're not Pierre's kids so hey ho
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I really don't think that Pierre wouldn't care about children being killed by a disease, a wee bit unfair IMO.
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