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Old 09-04-2021, 18:03   #346
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Old 09-04-2021, 21:08   #347
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​I've got the latest update of the TV version of iPlayer on my V6. So it's rolling out to those not opting into the Beta now.
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Old 10-04-2021, 00:24   #348
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I know that BBC4 has been suspended, but has VM also suspended Sky Comedy & Sky Documentaries? They are both blocked on my box
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Old 10-04-2021, 00:37   #349
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I know that BBC4 has been suspended, but has VM also suspended Sky Comedy & Sky Documentaries? They are both blocked on my box
Both Sky channels working on our Sky Q box. Sure you've paid your bill this month?
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Old 10-04-2021, 02:56   #350
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I know that BBC4 has been suspended, but has VM also suspended Sky Comedy & Sky Documentaries? They are both blocked on my box
Both channels working fine on SKYQ here.
Not seen anything mentioned on twitter either.
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I know that BBC4 has been suspended, but has VM also suspended Sky Comedy & Sky Documentaries? They are both blocked on my box
What happens when you try to tune to them? Are HD and SD versions both affected (assuming you subscribe to both)?
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Old 10-04-2021, 13:43   #352
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What happens when you try to tune to them? Are HD and SD versions both affected (assuming you subscribe to both)?
It said 'Not authorised' in the same way that RTE Radio did three years ago when there was a software fault.

It seems to have righted itself upon checking this morning, I had wondered if VM had blocked Sky Comedy as they felt it innappropriate to show this during a period of national mourning, but then found that Sky Documentaries was blocked too!
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It said 'Not authorised' in the same way that RTE Radio did three years ago when there was a software fault.

It seems to have righted itself upon checking this morning, I had wondered if VM had blocked Sky Comedy as they felt it innappropriate to show this during a period of national mourning, but then found that Sky Documentaries was blocked too!
It would be up to the channels themselves what they show or don't show, not the platforms they're on.
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It would be up to the channels themselves what they show or don't show, not the platforms they're on.
Yeah but I thought that VM might have taken it upon itself to not show material on it's platform that may cause laughter in the current circumstances, even though Sky had decided not to pull the channel.

It would be interesting to know if a carriage agreement means that those who pay for channels have to show them once they've paid for them??
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I think you are overthinking the matter to a laughable extent.
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Old 10-04-2021, 14:17   #356
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Yeah but I thought that VM might have taken it upon itself to not show material on it's platform that may cause laughter in the current circumstances, even though Sky had decided not to pull the channel.

It would be interesting to know if a carriage agreement means that those who pay for channels have to show them once they've paid for them??
That would be an enormous breach of contract, so extremely unlikely...
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Yeah but I thought that VM might have taken it upon itself to not show material on it's platform that may cause laughter in the current circumstances, even though Sky had decided not to pull the channel.

It would be interesting to know if a carriage agreement means that those who pay for channels have to show them once they've paid for them??
Under agreements carriers are not allowed to block channels without exceptional reaso..
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Old 10-04-2021, 17:52   #358
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Thanks. It would obviously be pointless, but I wasn't sure if a platform could buy the right to broadcast a channel & not do so when I was trying to work out why Sky Comedy was blocked.

It makes sense that it would be in the contract that they have to show a channel that they've bought the rights for as this would help the channel owner to increase ad revenue.

I've only ever known this happen on Freeview where one of the 'text n tits' type channels finished broadcasting for the night. An error meant that a frozen picture of a woman's breasts carried on being broadcast, prompting complaints from people when children started channel surfing later on that morning.

The channel couldn't be contacted to remedy the situation, so in the end Arqiva had to be contacted to cut the feed.

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Yes, but I expect the channel was breaching its contract in allowing that picture to be displayed outside its broadcasting hours.
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Yes, but I expect the channel was breaching its contract in allowing that picture to be displayed outside its broadcasting hours.
I agree, I don’t see how Richard can see the two situations as comparable.

If someone in the supply chain is aware that a channel is broadcasting 18 or 15 rated content out of hours (inadvertently or otherwise) then I’d expect them to take reasonable steps to pull the plug. I’m sure OFCOM would take the same view.

The extent to which these processes are automated would be a reasonable defence for operators.
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