Pontins guilty of racism.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I think you're confusing prejudice based on skin colour & racism. It's also perfectly possible for a member of the same race to be racist to another of the same race, both practically & legally.

Reminds me of an incident at work many years ago.

Got accused of being 'racist' towards a couple of people. I explained to HR that it was nothing to do with race, religion or colour . . but if people are thick, lazy and useless I'll have a pop at them.

One day suspension, must try harder . . lesson learnt, I just let people do (or not do) what they wanted after that . . . much to the detriment of production & efficiency

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Carth

Reminds me of an incident at work many years ago.

Got accused of being 'racist' towards a couple of people. I explained to HR that it was nothing to do with race, religion or colour . . but if people are thick, lazy and useless I'll have a pop at them.

One day suspension, must try harder . . lesson learnt, I just let people do (or not do) what they wanted after that . . . much to the detriment of production & efficiency

The problem is that people & organisations (including the police) these days are terrified of the consequences of being accused or found guilty of racism, so they tend to err on the side of caution to protect themselves or their business.

On the other side of the coin, there may be a personality clash, or a situation that you describe, that has nothing to do with racial prejudice. However, these days very few people are publically & openly racist as it's often illegal or deemed to be socially unacceptable.

What they do instead is to find fault with them via another avenue to get at them, whilst hiding their true feelings.

Until we can find a way to mind read, all companies, the judiciary & individuals can do is make a decision based on the information available to them.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I think you're confusing prejudice based on skin colour & racism. It's also perfectly possible for a member of the same race to be racist to another of the same race, both practically & legally.

Not in the slightest bit mixed up

Races are built up from Main

Caucasoid , Mongoloid , Australoid and one I never know whether it is safe to mention any more.

Each of these groups have sub groups

So in the true definition of race A Caucasoid can not be racist towards another Caucasoid. You can be prejudiced to other cultures or beliefs but in real terms that is not racist . The real term that should have been adopted by modern culture is Xenophobia/xenophobic which is a fear or dislike of anything different ie country religion belief system

Modern society has *******ised Racism to fit an agenda and it is far to often cried unjustly

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Not in the slightest bit mixed up

Races are built up from Main

Caucasoid , Mongoloid , Australoid and one I never know whether it is safe to mention any more.

Each of these groups have sub groups

So in the true definition of race A Caucasoid can not be racist towards another Caucasoid. You can be prejudiced to other cultures or beliefs but in real terms that is not racist . The real term that should have been adopted by modern culture is Xenophobia/xenophobic which is a fear or dislike of anything different ie country religion belief system

Modern society has *******ised Racism to fit an agenda and it is far to often cried unjustly

It depends who's deciding the classifications. If it's a geneticist then it could be just three: Caucasoid, Mongoloids, and Negroid.

If it's someone else in a different context then you could get far more races as they will use a different interpretation of race.

Neither is wrong, they're just different.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It depends who's deciding the classifications. If it's a geneticist then it could be just three: Caucasoid, Mongoloids, and Negroid.

If it's someone else in a different context then you could get far more races as they will use a different interpretation of race.

Neither is wrong, they're just different.

Everyone is different, even twins/triplets . . but we're all supposed to fit into the same box

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Paul

So they were actually [allegedly] just blocking certain surnames.

Yes, they were.

[Carth]

Top o the morning to ya sir, we wuz in the area and noticed the guttering on your 238 chalets were a bit buggered. We can fix em up right good n proper fer a fair price, what you say eh?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

Everyone is different, even twins/triplets . . but we're all supposed to fit into the same box

What I mean is that neither definition is wrong, they're different definitions used in different contexts.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

What I mean is that neither definition is wrong, they're different definitions used in different contexts.

Indeed and it's pointless to fixate on the semantics of it. What people actually mean is far more important than what they say IMO.

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Originally Posted by Carth

Top o the morning to ya sir, we wuz in the area and noticed the guttering on your 238 chalets were a bit buggered. We can fix em up right good n proper fer a fair price, what you say eh?

If you make a habit of telling jokes with outdated stereotypical material with racist connotations, you leave yourself wide open to accusations of being racist in the workplace or anywhere else.

[Carth]

Actually, I rather doubt it's outdated at all . .

. . unless of course you know different?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Carth

Actually, I rather doubt it's outdated at all . .

. . unless of course you know different?

I actually had an (unsolicited) Irish guy at my door the other week offering to give me some "free" kitchen knives. He said that a neighbour had bought three packs off him, which didn't sound right if they were supposed to be free, so I sent him away. No social distancing whatsoever btw, until I told him to step back.

So, yes, stereotypes do exist, but the vast majority of Irish people aren't cowboys who go hawking door to door and this belief probably died out when Irish jokes did with the advent of political correctness.

[Carth]

Irish (in fact any) jokes haven't died out, they're simply now only told among those who still retain a sense of humour amongst all this madness

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Carth

Irish (in fact any) jokes haven't died out, they're simply now only told among those who still retain a sense of humour amongst all this madness

I personally haven't heard one for decades now.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Carth

Irish (in fact any) jokes haven't died out, they're simply now only told among those who still retain a sense of humour amongst all this madness

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Yes, they were.

Just book in as Smith hehehe