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Old 21-02-2021, 18:07   #91
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Price increases for one.
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Old 22-02-2021, 15:04   #93
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Good, why should they be subsidised to put other people out of business, they want their cake and eat it and they've been getting away with it to long
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Yes let's completely erode workers rights, abolish the minimum wage and make taxes optional.

Everything will be cheaper, but will we be better off???
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Old 24-02-2021, 00:01   #96
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Now they will increase more.
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Now they will increase more.
Small price to pay to protect British businesses from being undercut by illegal working practices of vulture capitalists from Silicon Valley.
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Re: Uber licence revoked

Businesses adapt all the time. If British businesses get undercut by competition, they just respond and get better. That’s progress.

Of course businesses need to work within the law. It is unfortunate that the law is an ass.

The law is continually being tested, novel ways found to get around unintended consequences, etc.

As for workers’ rights, the right to seek the flexibility that many gig workers find useful is being compromised. Both Uber and their drivers considered the drivers to be self employed. There was no need for the courts to interfere and amend the contracts that had been drawn up with joint agreement.

As I said, this is not good news for consumers either, who will now have to pay more for the same service. This will lead to fewer people using the service, which will mean less work for the newly designated ‘employees’. Lose/lose.
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Businesses adapt all the time. If British businesses get undercut by competition, they just respond and get better. That’s progress.
That’s a race to the bottom.

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Of course businesses need to work within the law. It is unfortunate that the law is an ass.
The law is continually being tested, novel ways found to get around unintended consequences, etc.
Yes and fundamentally ways of getting round it to avoid taxes (e.g. employers NICs) by categorising employees as self-employed is and always has been illegal.

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As for workers’ rights, the right to seek the flexibility that many gig workers find useful is being compromised. Both Uber and their drivers considered the drivers to be self employed. There was no need for the courts to interfere and amend the contracts that had been drawn up with joint agreement.
People and employers don’t get to decide who are self employed for tax purposes. HMRC do.

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Absolute nonsense Old Boy. It’s great news for the consumer because the ultimate aim of Uber and the like is to eliminate competition and move towards monopoly pricing.

Businesses adapt all the time you say.

Well this time Uber can adapt to following employment law. And paying taxes in Britain just like everyone else.
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Businesses adapt all the time. If British businesses get undercut by competition, they just respond and get better. That’s progress.

Of course businesses need to work within the law. It is unfortunate that the law is an ass.

The law is continually being tested, novel ways found to get around unintended consequences, etc.

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As I said, this is not good news for consumers either, who will now have to pay more for the same service. This will lead to fewer people using the service, which will mean less work for the newly designated ‘employees’. Lose/lose.
Strange how you go on and espouse about market forces but as per usual you contradict yourself.
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Strange how you go on and espouse about market forces but as per usual you contradict yourself.
Yes. The law of the UK is a market force.
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Businesses adapt all the time. If British businesses get undercut by competition, they just respond and get better. That’s progress.

Of course businesses need to work within the law. It is unfortunate that the law is an ass.

The law is continually being tested, novel ways found to get around unintended consequences, etc.

As for workers’ rights, the right to seek the flexibility that many gig workers find useful is being compromised. Both Uber and their drivers considered the drivers to be self employed. There was no need for the courts to interfere and amend the contracts that had been drawn up with joint agreement.

As I said, this is not good news for consumers either, who will now have to pay more for the same service. This will lead to fewer people using the service, which will mean less work for the newly designated ‘employees’. Lose/lose.
Well, since Uber's aim is to move to driverless cars, that will be a moot point.

And if you believe that the contracts were drawn up jointly between Uber's corporate employment lawyers and the individual drivers, I've got a bridge you might be interested in...
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Well, since Uber's aim is to move to driverless cars, that will be a moot point.

And if you believe that the contracts were drawn up jointly between Uber's corporate employment lawyers and the individual drivers, I've got a bridge you might be interested in...
Driverless cars are not imminent.
https://www.christianwolmar.co.uk/20...iverless-cars/
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They don’t have to be imminent, they just have to be in a timescale that keeps Uber’s founders happy - that’s why they outsourced it, and then pivoted to UberEats to keep the investors happy
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